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About Kratom

About Kratom

What is kratom?

Mitragyna Speciosa, also known as Kratom, is a large tree in the Rubiaceae family native to Southeast Asia in the Indochina and Malesia floristic regions. It was first documented by Pieter Korthals, a Dutch colonial botanist. The leaf of the tree contains mirtragynine and was traditionally used for its ethnobotanical and medicinal properties. The leaves of kratom have been used by the indigenous people as a stimulant in low doses, a sedative in large doses, an anti-diarrheal and pain killer. It is said that Kratom affects the human brain similarly to an opiate although there is no conclusive clinical data proving how the alkaloids works in relation to the human brain.

Kratom contains more than 25 alkaloids including mitragynine and 7-hydroxymitragynine. These alkaloids act as mu-opioid receptor antagonist. The three most abundant indoles are mitragynine (9-methoxy-corynantheidine) which is responsible for 1/2 of the alkaloid content, paynanthine, and speciogynine. The two most abundant oxindoles are mitraphylline and speciofoline. Other alkaloids present include ajmalicine, corynanthedine, mitraversine, rhychophylline, and stipulatine. Mitragynine is believed, but has not been proven to be, the primary active alkaloid in Mitragyna Speciosa.

Is Kratom Legal?

Kratom (Mitragyna speciosa) is uncontrolled in the United States with the exception of Indiana and Vermont . This means all parts of the plant and its extracts are legal to cultivate, buy, possess, and distribute (sell, trade or give) without a license or prescription. If sold as a supplement, sales must conform to U.S. supplement laws. If sold for consumption as a food or drug, sales are regulated by the FDA.

In 2012 Indiana banned the chemicals Mirtagynine and 7-hydroxymitragynine, but the legal definition does not appear to cover the plant kratom. In 2012, Vermont issued a an emergency order to ban several new designer chemicals which included 7-hydroxymitragynine (one of the active alkaloids in kratom), effectively banning kratom in Vermont.

Laws change quite often and ignorance of the law does not excuse criminal conduct (Ignorantia juris non excusat)., so be sure that kratom is legal where you live before using it.

How safe is Kratom?

When taken by itself (not mixing it with other substances), the greatest risk when taking Kratom may be falling asleep while engaged in hazardous activities. Like any other substance that may be mind altering or affect your cognitive abilities, do not drive or operate heavy machinery while under the influence of Kratom. Always use common sense. Due to the lack of medical studies regarding the use of Kratom in relation to pregnancy, pregnant women should not take any drug or medication except at the medical advice from their physician. It is not known whether it could cause birth defects or fetal death. Once again, always use common sense regarding anything that you put in your body.

Is Kratom habit forming?

Although a small number of individuals have become dependent on Kratom (primarily in Thailand), Kratom is not habit forming when used in moderation and responsibly. When used in moderation, not daily, there is no documented risk of dependency. It is important not to get into the habit of using Kratom, or any supplement, on a daily basis. Like many stimulants [e.g. alcohol, coffee, tobacco, etc.], when used daily for a prolonged period of time, could become habit forming. You know your body better than any physician and must be diligent regarding self control. If you have a predisposition for addiction, you must treat everything with moderate behavior including the use of Kratom.

What are the effects of Kratom?

Kratom is quite unique, in that, in low to moderate doses will commonly be stimulating and in large doses has a more sedative effect. Often, the individual will experience an analgesic effect caused by the alkaloids contained in Kratom and the manner in which the brain receptors are affected. The level of effect, like any other supplement, depends on many factors including body weight, physiological makeup, tolerance level and so on.

As a stimulant, used in low to moderate doses, the individual will experience an analgesic effect along with physical energy, alertness, increased libido, euphoria, sociability, improved mindset or mood, focus and overall improved demeanor. In some cases when taken in large doses, an individual may experience edginess similar to being over-caffeinated.

An a sedative, used in higher doses, an individual will experience an analgesic effect along with euphoria, a lower sensitivity to pain, both physically and emotionally, relaxation, anti-depression and anti-anxiety. Used in excess, it may result in a prolonged sleep.

What are the active components of Kratom?

The important active alkaloids in Kratom are mitragynine and 7-hydroxymitragynine. These alkaloids are responsible for pain relieving, sedative, euphoric, and stimulating effects.

Are there any reported health issues caused by Kratom?

There are very few reports regarding negative health effects due to Kratom and the circumstances reported were in conjunction with additional illegal substances combined, so there is no conclusive data showing Kratom as the cause for any negative effects. Health problems are unlikely unless one is consuming large quantities of Kratom every day. In Thailand, where many of the indigenous population use kratom daily, those dependent on it can develop weight loss and have physical withdrawal symptoms when quitting abruptly. If any, the withdrawal symptoms may include muscle aches, irritability, crying, runny nose, diarrhea, and muscle jerking. Health problems are unlikely to occur in occasional Kratom users. Like any drug or medicine, moderation is the key and individual’s reactions may vary. It is uncommon, but an individual could possibly experience an allergic or other unusual reaction to Kratom, even if used responsibly. More commonly, when using an excessive amount, an individual’s body would simply reject the substance, thus as a natural physiological reaction, may experience emesis (Vomiting) as the body's way of preservation.


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Kratom's Tireless Accuser

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Kratom's Tireless Accuser

Kratom has a determined adversary in the mother of one 20-year-old who killed himself in July. She prefers to believe that Kratom killed her son, rather than the three prescription pharmaceuticals that were also in his system that sad day. The young man had a several year struggle with addiction to opioid drugs and was in and out of rehab several times, though his mother never talks about that.

It is very strange to blame an herb that is helping people get off of opioid drugs, when the boy's toxicology report showed two of the three prescription drugs he had in his system have suicide warnings on them.

It also seems unusual that the herb that as many as 2,000,000 Americans use regularly, has killed no-one else among the many who use it daily.

My estimate is probably quite conservative. But, if Kratom -- besides being used for centuries in Southeast Asia for relieving depression and improving people's mood -- is likely to cause people here to kill themselves, where are the other victims?

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Kratom Faces Resistance to Progress

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Kratom Faces Resistance to Progress

Kratom is facing a lot of resistance to the acceptance of a better, less expensive, form of pain reliever, antidepressant, anti-anxiety, and herbal energy product. Progress never comes easily.

Look at the 77+ years that various agencies have enjoyed huge budgets for finding and jailing harmless marijuana smokers, if you want proof of how much resistance there is to a new (actually ancient) herbal solution to many medical problems that have Big Pharma "stumped".

Progress of all kinds forces people to find new sources of income and employment.

The automobile put the horse-and-buggy out of service. Automobiles pushed out the streetcar. Trucking curtailed the use of the rail lines.

Now kratom, a simple leaf of a tree, is hurting pain clinics, doctors, and ultimately even Big Pharma companies themselves are feeling the pain of losing sales of opioid drugs, suboxone, antidepressants, anti-anxiety meds, etc.

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Kratom Basics for New Users

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Kratom Basics for New Users

Kratom: What to Take & How to Take It

Hundreds of new people are discovering kratom every day. Most are asking the same basic questions. This post was requested by a busy Admin, who wanted to have a place to send folks where they could get most of their questions about starting out on this wonderful and mysterious herb answered.

I won't claim to be the #1 World Expert on the subject of Kratom, but I love it, am fascinated by the variety of things it is doing for people, I've read many medical research papers, I've had a long history of using herbs and nutrition to maintain my health, and I love to write about the ways to achieve the health we are capable of achieving with kratom.

Susan Ash has also written a more concise guide for new users. It is called Kratom 101. I didn't read her version until after I wrote this. It is downloadable from the Facebook group "Kratom -- New and Current Users" It covers the same main points that I do here.

Download link: Kratom 101 Guide by Susan Ash

Kratom has a long history of safe use as a stimulant, relaxant, painkiller, mood-improver, fever-reducer, anti-hypertensive, cough medicine, de-wormer, diabetes folk remedy, and anti-leukemic with significant antioxidant power and God-knows-what-else.

Most of the research that has been done has been driven by the pharmaceutical industry's interest in only a few of its 27 or more alkaloids and chemical compounds. For some reason, even though some alkaloid analogs have been patented perhaps because of their unique analgesic strength and safety, but -- as of now 11-17-2014 -- none have been brought to market.

For those of us who love the whole herb's effects, this lack of a pharmaceutical copy is probably a blessing.

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PTSD and Kratom

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PTSD

PTSD and kratom is something both the VA and veterans themselves should be considering based on the success users of this herb are experiencing.

I write a lot on the various uses people find for kratom, but most of the uses have been pain-related, addiction-ending, or for anxiety relief, with only one or two (that I've seen) for PTSD.

Then yesterday I received this comment from Nick on one of my articles:

I myself have suffered from moderate PTSD and generalized anxiety disorder after several deployments to Iraq. So far Kratom seems to totally alleviate those symptoms. It is mostly the anxiety I deal with, constant worry. While in the military they prescribed me various anxiety medications and I stopped taking them after about six months. I understood the risk and the harmful side effects that came with it.

I have long believed that for every synthetically made substance, there is a safe and natural herb that they are trying to mimic. At first I thought this must be too good to be true, but the more I read, the more I am impressed with the benefits and safety of the plant.

(Beautifully put, Nick. I have felt the same way, too. Big Pharma is stealing Nature's ideas and then trying to get laws passed to stop humanity from using the original, natural product.)

This soldier is wise to do his own research on how to use kratom. It's really not that difficult -- mostly, it just requires some commonsense and personal experimentation to find the strains that suit your purposes.

One thing to keep in mind is that, "More is not necessarily better."

 

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Broward Battle, a Temporary Victory

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Broward County - Kratom ruled Safe

We won another victory this week when the Broward County, Florida, commissioners voted to postpone any decision on banning kratom while more information on the safety is being researched.

I feel like generally we are getting our message across to open-minded individuals, but there continue to be those who are against kratom, no matter what evidence we present them. Either they can't read or they won't read -- and the result is the same for both. This, I predict, will be a long fight and a hard one.

Past victories in Chicago, Arizona, and Oklahoma -- aided by the Botanical Legal Defense -- are encouraging, but they are no guarantee of easy future successes as we fight this issue county by county and state by state. Anytime someone proposes a major change in the status quo that affects the power players' income, we are going to have a lot of persistent lobbying, arguing, and convincing to do.

When you come to see how we and the people we know and love are being KILLED and INJURED by the products and also the incorrect information about our health that are being spread by the pharmaceutical industry, you may become as determined as I am about winning this fight.

The battle for our natural right to use kratom is only a small part of what we are fighting for. It is a very important part, though! The whole concept that governments can use force to make people do or not do things to themselves that hurt no-one else is nuts.

If we choose to use herbs, based on our own study of the benefits and dangers of the herb, that should not be any concern of the state -- as long as we accept the responsibility for our own behavior.

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