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TOPIC: There Is No Maeng Da...Anywhere. By Joe Sokol

There Is No Maeng Da...Anywhere. By Joe Sokol 1 year 7 months ago #18161

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I might have to do some Herb Research... lol.

I am gonna find that white Jong Kong md follow his business model and charge $16

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There Is No Maeng Da...Anywhere. By Joe Sokol 1 year 7 months ago #18171

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Thank you, Joe. I am so interested in how we both learned all this, through different roads taken. I don't know any Indonesian names of places besides Hulu Kapuas, krarom Asia has been educating me about it, and he told me much the same thing in fewer words. But I tease you only because I also write every detail and people DO read it! And learn! Thanks!
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There Is No Maeng Da...Anywhere. By Joe Sokol 1 year 7 months ago #18172

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Hey Joe, would you be interested in this useless kratom I got from a farm kratom Asia is not involved with and sent to me to test? It doesn't work, so this would be SERIOUSLY ONLY FOR RESEARCH.
He said it ships out in tons also, and I'm thinking its destiny is US head shops to disappoint newbies :(
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There Is No Maeng Da...Anywhere. By Joe Sokol 1 year 7 months ago #18253

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Awesome post. I was just telling kobe girl I think alot of these names r bull shit cuz how could they have farms in all these different areas. Thanks for shedding the light. Sucks we don't really know what we're getting
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There Is No Maeng Da...Anywhere. By Joe Sokol 1 year 7 months ago #18352

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for your info, CMIW ok. in indonesia kratom only grow wild in sumatra (aceh mostly) and all borneo. for asia there are papua new guinea, thailand, myanmar, and malaysia off course (it 1 island with borneo).
exportir from indonesia mostly from java island (maybe you can make your own guess).
from my experience when i am not much seeing, i only see kratom tree with red vein and white vein (thats it) and then because of people want more, there are green (white almost green), yellow, maengda, elephant and horned.
and thats not what make the powder coloured, it is drying process.
about the alkaloid i assure you not in 1 tree we can get the same alkaloid level. thats depend on many factor as how old, how close with river, is it flooded, is it rainy season or not, is it drying indoor or outdoor, and so on..
you can lear from youtube keyword : kratom, ketum (malaysia), biak (sumatra) puri (borneo) or many name you can see in FDA web page.
as big player you cant control how good the quality because of big demand makes farmer work not thinking about quality (they buy cheap price) and for quality we must take care of some farmer by giving him money so they have enaugh money to live and dont have to work with the big player (if your people care pls help)

but again, i am not experienced enaugh to give good explanation, and i will learn from you also friend.
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There Is No Maeng Da...Anywhere. By Joe Sokol 1 year 7 months ago #18362

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Thank you for the explanation that coincides with what I've learned. I've received your package today. Undecided when I will test - tomorrow at soonest, but I'm feeling unwell, so I may wait to feel well to do accurate and fair testing.
Thank you SO MUCH for being straight up with me about the topic. Laurie
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There Is No Maeng Da...Anywhere. By Joe Sokol 1 year 7 months ago #18363

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Also, I DID mail the rest of that last kilo out to a vendor yesterday to help shed some light on why it wasn't helpful for me. So there may be good news about that farm stuff, who knows?!!
Have a great weekend!
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There Is No Maeng Da...Anywhere. By Joe Sokol 1 year 6 months ago #18380

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Fantastic Article! =D>:-bd Everybody here can Learn a Lot From You. I am Learning new things about Kratom every day. You should write Articles for Kratom Info Websites. :-?
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There Is No Maeng Da...Anywhere. By Joe Sokol 1 year 6 months ago #18455

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Thanks for the write-up!

I always take strain names way more seriously than I probably should, whether with kratom or other plants ingested for their relaxing effects. :silly:

Red Maeng Da from any vendor tends to have zero effect on me for some reason, which is odd considering it's not even one strain. MD's are typically supposed to be on the more stimulating end of the spectrum, so I assumed they come from Thai plants or other typically "stimulating" strains. But as you stated, there probably is no standard and they're picked from wherever the grower dang well pleases.

As with other ethnobotanicals, growing conditions likely play the biggest role in the end product. This season's Ketapangs might be twice as potent as next season's depending on the weather/planting & harvest time/etc.

If I had to learn one strain wasn't "real," I'd be okay with losing Maeng Da. :lol:
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There Is No Maeng Da...Anywhere. By Joe Sokol 1 year 6 months ago #18505

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I enjoyed your phone conversation about MD with Dewey from DD. You have a wealth of knowledge when it comes to kratom.
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