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Dosage amounts of red kratom needer 1 year 7 months ago #11318

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I need to know something about kratom dosage amounts in extract form. I am supposed to see a pain management specialist next month. I have seen such doctors before with little success . I heard red kratom helps pain. I tried marijuana once and it gave me a deathly ill elevated heart rate. I almost died. No shit. I am 5’10 and 155 pounds. It seems the only pain medication I can take are opiate related. They cause the least amount of bad reactions. Someone please provide me with a correct dosage amount for red kratom. Thanks.
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Dosage amounts of red kratom needer 1 year 7 months ago #11319

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Hi friend.

There are a lot of unanswered questions when it comes to your post. What type of kratom? How strong is the extract? 10x? 20x? Where did you buy the kratom?

Given that I don't know all of that information, it is hard to suggest a dosage, but I can leave a link that might be helpful.

Click Here to read about Kratom Dosage
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Dosage amounts of red kratom needer 1 year 7 months ago #11326

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Hi Ted :-h. Bweezy gave some great advice and I just wanted to add just be careful with extracts. It will spike your tolerance up through the roof to where plain leaf won't do much for you. May I suggest throwing in a bit of powdered extract in with some red Borneo plain leaf if you go the extract route. So say you take 5 to 6 grams of plain leaf, maybe add .5 to 1 gram of extract. But yes, bweezy is right it depends on the strength of the extract your looking for too. Just a thought! Happy kratom! (L)
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Dosage amounts of red kratom needer 1 year 7 months ago #11328

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If this is your first time burning kratom, then I wouldn't even touch the extracts. Just stick to plain leaf. For pain relief I would start with about 4-5 grams or 2 to 2.5 measuring teaspoons. One of the best strains for pain relief is red bentuangie.
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Dosage amounts of red kratom needer 1 year 7 months ago #11334

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Wow! I experienced this heart thing with cannabis as well! I've used it most of my life, and it always jacked up my heart rate a little and gave me some anxiety, but it was usually tolerable and the benefits seemed worthwhile. The last couple of times I tried it I gave it up! My girlfriend was out of town and was alone. My heart was pounding out of my chest and I truly felt like that was my last night on earth! Fucking terrifying! I was moments away from calling and ambulance and it finally slowed just enough. I've avoided it since. It was a weird change since it's been a part of my life for so long. Sorry that was not related to your main topic.
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Dosage amounts of red kratom needer 3 weeks 6 days ago #22806

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It is always best to stay with pain relief. Seek other methods for healing. Traditional chinese medicine, acupuncture while using plain leaf kratom. Issues of tolerance levels and addiction don’t occur.
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Dosage amounts of red kratom needer 3 weeks 6 days ago #22807

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It may also have to do with other things you might be taking along with cannabis and or kratom
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Dosage amounts of red kratom needer 3 weeks 6 days ago #22809

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gmantheman wrote:
If this is your first time burning kratom, then I wouldn't even touch the extracts. Just stick to plain leaf. For pain relief I would start with about 4-5 grams or 2 to 2.5 measuring teaspoons. One of the best strains for pain relief is red bentuangie.

I do not find Bentuangie as helpful for pain as Red Borneo... so there you have it. We are all individuals with different needs and different reactions.

I know you want us to give you a recipe BUT a lot of individual experimentation is required to find what is best for you.

For relief of chronic pain, I started with 2 gms of powdered leaf, Red Bali, Red Vein Thai and Red Borneo. Then I started branching out from there. In the beginning anything over 2 Gms made me heave.

I finally settled out at 4 Gms for pain relief...So be careful with extracts your tolerance will develop very quickly. So on this I do agree with Gmantheman...best to stick with powdered leaf.
Seek other methods for healing. Traditional chinese medicine, acupuncture while using plain leaf kratom.

This is SO true. Just like opiate medication, Kratom should only be part of a comprehensive plan for managing chronic pain in the long term. I had issues with alignment so massage, chiropractic, osteopathy and physiotherapy have all played a part in healing along with an exercise program (yoga) for stretching and strengthening.

I have had negative experiences with cannabis too....I am not a fan, so Kratom is much better for me BUT it must be used responsibly. This means that you must monitor your dose and your reactions, and become expert at treating yourself with this wonderful plant. We can all learn from each other here, BUT in the end you are responsible for your own treatment with Kratom.

This is true for treatment for chronic pain as well.

All the research shows that patients who self manage get better results than those who rely on health care professionals to "cure" them.
It seems the only pain medication I can take are opiate related. They cause the least amount of bad reactions.

I can identify with this...I was in the same boat. BUT for the long term opiates are not the answer, however, IF opiates work well for you, then you should do well with Kratom, as the alkaloids target the same receptors.
BEV
"Everybody is talking about pain killers, but nobody is talking about pain."
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Dosage amounts of red kratom needer 3 weeks 6 days ago #22812

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Thanks for your kindness. Unfortunately, kratom is now illegal in my state so I've rather given up perusing this herbal remedy as a means to control my degenerative Neuromuscular problem. One response here was about people occasionally having bad reactions to weed. I think people react to different things according to their biochemistry. And from personal experience I know that sometimes I will develop a allergic reaction to various Meds I have taken in the past. I heard positive things about red kratom and understand it has certain addictive attributes. People who suffer from chronic pain on a daily basis are not much concerned about the addictive attributes certain Meds come with. It's a matter of survival and not ethical, moral or legal debates. Same with terminally ill folks. I think unless healthy people were forced to walk in the shoes of someone struck down with intractable pain they would not so easily support governmenal legislation that outlaws potentially important pain control medicines. That's just my two cents.
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Dosage amounts of red kratom needer 3 weeks 5 days ago #22814

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If something is illegal in one state but not in another, how do the authorities control whether or not the substance enters into their state?

I mean couldn't you just enter the state with Kratom in your possession? Are there checkpoints at state boundaries like customs?

Just askin'.
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