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Help with picking a strain please, more euphoric, less 'speedy'. 7 months 3 weeks ago #16700

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Laurie wrote:
If they are euphoric from kratom, they are new to it and never had opiate issues prior to use. I call it the "honeymoon" with kratom. It lasted me about 2-3 weeks of my first times trying it. I only notice when I HAVEN'T used my depression management plant.
I think any claims of euphoria beyond the first 2 weeks is up to something OTHER than the benefits the rest of us seek, like anxiety relief, depression relief, minor pain relief, and no euphoric feelings. Sorry


Euphoria to me is feeling happy and hopeful rather than the sad and hopeless I feel about 75% of the time. If I can find something that helps me with pain and makes me feel that much better I'm all for it. I tried the green Malaysian and super Indo blend again this morning and it really does help with my pain
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Help with picking a strain please, more euphoric, less 'speedy'. 7 months 3 weeks ago #16701

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Usernametaken wrote:
If your getting headaches, most likely you're not drinking enough water(you need to drink more water than you normally do while using kratom). Another reason could be you're taking too much. I experienced this when I started using kratom.
It's also a good idea to take magnesium to avoid constipation.

I've found RMD to be more energizing than sedating. Red Thai has a similar effect on me.


I did not know that, that Kratom dehydrate you. I keep a 48-ounce pitcher of ice water going all morning at work but at home I'm really bad about staying hydrated so that could very well be it.

I've been meaning to get some magnesium. I take Prilosec often which deplete your body of magnesium and sometimes have an erratic heartbeat because of that. Magnesium citrate is best your body absorbs it better.
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Help with picking a strain please, more euphoric, less 'speedy'. 7 months 3 weeks ago #16702

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You're right magnesium citrate is good, magnesium glycinate is supposedly better especially if you have depression. Most people are deficient in magnesium to begin with.

Definitely try drinking more water. I always have a bottle water by my side. Hopefully this will alleviate your headaches.
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Help with picking a strain please, more euphoric, less 'speedy'. 7 months 3 weeks ago #16703

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Usernametaken wrote:
You're right magnesium citrate is good, magnesium glycinate is supposedly better especially if you have depression. Most people are deficient in magnesium to begin with.

Definitely try drinking more water. I always have a bottle water by my side. Hopefully this will alleviate your headaches.

I started taking magnesium about this time last year and ran out at some point and I've completely forgotten about it in the last five months or so. Besides the fact that I quit having erratic heartbeat episodes I noticed that my mood was better as well. I'm going to stop on the way home and get some thank you
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Help with picking a strain please, more euphoric, less 'speedy'. 7 months 3 weeks ago #16704

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That word, euphoria, gets kratom misunderstood in the world. People think it's a legal high, etc.
Thanks for clarifying your meaning of the word. I'm just overly sensitive after last September. Kratom Ban PTSD, I guess.
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Help with picking a strain please, more euphoric, less 'speedy'. 7 months 3 weeks ago #16711

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Actually Magnesium Bisglycinate is the best absorbed form of magnesium but might not be available everywhere. Try on line or ask for it specifically.

I was unaware of the benefits of taking magnesium for Kratom users. I have been taking Magnesium Bisglycinate as a supplement for a couple of years. Do I have to take it with the Kratom in order to get the potentiation?

I am just concerned because I have recently had to up my Kratom dose and getting much better results too. Maybe I could knock it back down if I took the Magnesium with it?

Just passed my first 48 hours with no opiates! Pain is under control too thanks to my chiro and a meningeal decompression adjustment. (I don't have a clue what it is either BUT it worked!)
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Help with picking a strain please, more euphoric, less 'speedy'. 7 months 3 weeks ago #16717

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bomalley wrote:
Actually Magnesium Bisglycinate is the best absorbed form of magnesium but might not be available everywhere. Try on line or ask for it specifically.

I was unaware of the benefits of taking magnesium for Kratom users. I have been taking Magnesium Bisglycinate as a supplement for a couple of years. Do I have to take it with the Kratom in order to get the potentiation?

I am just concerned because I have recently had to up my Kratom dose and getting much better results too. Maybe I could knock it back down if I took the Magnesium with it?

Just passed my first 48 hours with no opiates! Pain is under control too thanks to my chiro and a meningeal decompression adjustment. (I don't have a clue what it is either BUT it worked!)

I've never heard of magnesium bisglycinate...I read the article by Dr. Nibber but I don't see any reference to it, only magnesium glycinate, which doesn't have a laxative effect so it won't help with constipation. Am I missing something? :huh:

People have said that magnesium can reduce tolerance and/or potentiate kratom. Personally, I never noticed any potentiation. I began taking magnesium a few weeks after I began using kratom because it caused severe constipation, which is rarely an issue with me b/c I have Crohn's Disease.

Magnesium supplements are recommended for people with Crohn's, depression, and a plethora of other ailments. I've read that it's best to take magnesium about 30 mins to an hour before the kratom, rather than at the same time.

Using both may keep your tolerance down. However, once your tolerance increases I don't think you can reduce it by introducing magnesium.

Congrats on going 48 hrs without opiates =D>.
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Help with picking a strain please, more euphoric, less 'speedy'. 7 months 3 weeks ago #16718

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Yes, congratulations, bomalley. :)
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Help with picking a strain please, more euphoric, less 'speedy'. 7 months 3 weeks ago #16725

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Congrarulations, bomally, how was day 3?
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Help with picking a strain please, more euphoric, less 'speedy'. 7 months 3 weeks ago #16727

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I have had no withdrawals at all! I was down to 10 mg once per day anyway but Doc said that last few mgs would be the most difficult to get off of and I did not find that to be the case - BUT then I had the Kratom to help me.

I never thought about the drug when I did not have pain so the combination of Kratom and resolution of pain has helped immensely.

Not even sure I need the Kratom any more I feel so much better! BUT I have had so many setbacks on this journey I find it difficult to trust that this will be the new normal!

Just enjoying it for now. I am starting to mobilize more and will be back to my regular Yoga schedule next week. Will see how that goes.

I am taking Kratom before yoga because I am just too anxious about being in pain again!

I have also laid in a good supply of Kratom. I just makes me feel more secure knowing it is there.
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