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Stopping opiate abuse Guide 2 years 3 months ago #12831

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Wow Laurie. That was one of the most interesting posts I've read here. It's amazing think about how complex peoples stories are. You weren't talking to me, but thanks for sharing just the same. What you said about not having kids to end a toxic bloodline really hit home with me. That's exactly what I was thinking about just the other day. My girlfriend wants kids, but I'm terrified that they will turn out like me. And my father. And his father. Anyway, thanks again for sharing. I hope things are going as well as they can for you.

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Hey Laurie, glad to hear you're doing well

I think every single person who makes improvements or starts recovering from a scary habit becomes a bit preachy, even if temporarily. Every one. I still tend to ramble forever about me kicking suboxone. It comes from being relieved/elated/feeling free, and kind of being grossed out/scared by reminders of the habit and lifestyle (people who still do it, etc). I think it's just a phase, you're kind of re-learning things. Don't be too hard on yourself, you're only trying to help people!
Good luck with using the extract for your procedure, and hoping your physical therapy/ excersize goes well.

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Cori177 wrote: Hey Laurie, glad to hear you're doing well

I think every single person who makes improvements or starts recovering from a scary habit becomes a bit preachy, even if temporarily. Every one. I still tend to ramble forever about me kicking suboxone. It comes from being relieved/elated/feeling free, and kind of being grossed out/scared by reminders of the habit and lifestyle (people who still do it, etc). I think it's just a phase, you're kind of re-learning things. Don't be too hard on yourself, you're only trying to help people!
Good luck with using the extract for your procedure, and hoping your physical therapy/ excersize goes well.

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Cori177 could you please give me some advice, I have been on suboxone for over 8 years and have not been able to kick the habit. I really could use some advice from someone who has been there and come out of it. My only alternative is going to be to go to rehab, which is going to cost me upwords of $15,000, which I am willing to pay, to get out of this dam cycle.

It's so dumb, because I haven't been a true drug addict, since I got onto suboxone 8 years ago. It was a miracle drug, back then. And now, it's the chains I live with everyday. :evil:

I am about to get engaged and must end this asap, let me know if you have any advice. Thanks again.
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Hello Zbest (name?)

Firstly this is not medical advice, just personal experience. If you feel rehab is for you, that's your choice. But I can tell you I did it from home, with minimal discomfort. It took about 3 months. (NOT sick-in-bed, I was able to eat, move, work, etc, just a slow taper over a couple months. Some people have done it faster.)
I was on suboxone for around the same time length as you, interspersed with other opiates. As of now, I have not had any suboxone or any opiates for a year and a half. The only thing I take is kratom and occasionally a few drinks. (Cold turkey did not work for me, as I had tried many times.)
What I did is taper slowly over several months, dropping a tiny bit every week or so, and then dropped down eventually to less than .25 once every other day, then less, to about 1/8 every other day. You can keep going lower, skipping every two days. I know it's hard to discipline, but it's more of a mental thing. Suboxone is very strong, and even if you think you start feeling sick, your brain just might be 'bugging out' a bit, but your system still has it in it. Suboxone stays in your system for a few days.
My method was: firstly, make your taper schedule. Then take what suboxone you have and divide it up (cut/break, etc.), and put it in one of those vitamin holders. If you have someone/a close friend or partner who knows what you're doing, it can help to have then give you the daily dose and then keep it with them so you're not tempted. I went from 2 mg daily for a couple weeks, to 1 mg for a couple weeks, then .75 mg every other day, then .5 every other day, then .25, then every other day, etc. You might be feeling slight discomfort/withdrawal during this time, but it shouldn't be too bad if you really follow the slow taper.
When I finally took my last dose, I waited another day, then when I started feeling sick, I took lots of Imodium (the little pills) which helped my stomach AND with the withdrawals, and started taking my kratom capsules, which I made myself prior. I took a lot of red strain, Bali too, I recall, but I'm sure other types can help too. I started with 8-10 grams. I smoked a little herbal 'assistance' to help too.
Melatonin helped very much with sleep. You must eat a lot. Excersize, even walks, if you can.
There are a LOT of in-depth How-To guides about this online, but I don't think I'm allowed to post links. PM me and I'll send you some of the ones that gave good info. Please don't be overwhelmed, quitting the suboxone is DEFINITELY possible by yourself. If you are not taking the suboxone as a substitute for opiates (meaning you will go back to opiates), but just want to completely stop the suboxone and not need any opiates, this is why you're on this site. Kratom can totally help be the key to quitting, and it doesn't have to be a horrible painful ordeal. It just requires some planning and self-discipline.
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Hello Zbest :-h

I agree with Laurie that kicking suboxone is its own task i remember it being much harder than other opiates to quit and i did not take it nearly as long as you have. I tried to stop opiates with it once and it was horrible. But i also abused it. If i remember right all i did was switch back to opiates. So i dont got got much info on that particular substance either. I hope you find info from someone who has done that personally. And i wish you the best of luck in getting away from them. :) You can do it :-bd
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