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Med/plant interaction 2 years 9 months ago #8971

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Does anybody know of pain meds that can be taken without interfering with the benefits of the plant tea?
I know of two that I don't have or get: nucynta and hysinga?
Any others that do not go to the same receptors, therefore cancelling one another out? I'd like to get started using the plant again, but if I take ANYTHING else, I'm worried it will be wasteful of either. Thank you in advance

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Med/plant interaction 2 years 9 months ago #8975

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Basically, Laurie, it's the opiates that block the same receptors that kratom affects (for pain). Otherwise, I am not aware of anything else that interferes. Tramadol, as well as the more familiar hydrocodone, oxycodone, etc. LDN, too, I hear (Low Dose Naltrexone). If it's an opiate/opioid, it's fighting for the same opioid receptors that kratom goes after.

For diabetics or pre-diabetics, they might need to adjust their dose of metformin or other blood-sugar-lowering drugs, because kratom also improves insulin function, thus lowering blood sugar.
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Med/plant interaction 2 years 2 weeks ago #15095

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Do you know of any medications that should not be taken with Kratom? I want to have my father try it, but he is very, very ill. He's a bad diabetic with debilitating arthritis and is in constant pain. His kidney functioning is down to 25%, so we have to be careful about how anything affects that. He takes about 30 prescription medications.

kemppaulh@yahoo.com wrote: Basically, Laurie, it's the opiates that block the same receptors that kratom affects (for pain). Otherwise, I am not aware of anything else that interferes. Tramadol, as well as the more familiar hydrocodone, oxycodone, etc. LDN, too, I hear (Low Dose Naltrexone). If it's an opiate/opioid, it's fighting for the same opioid receptors that kratom goes after.

For diabetics or pre-diabetics, they might need to adjust their dose of metformin or other blood-sugar-lowering drugs, because kratom also improves insulin function, thus lowering blood sugar.

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Med/plant interaction 2 years 2 weeks ago #15096

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Welcome aboard! Kratom is non-toxic. Potentiators would be best avoided, particularly grapefruit juice. Try a tiny bit. Make sure he stays hydrated. If he's finicky, like my Mom, I make hers with a filter and coffee. Drip coffee/kratom. Mom cannot complain about the taste because she loves fresh coffee. Take it very slow at first. He won't need as much as you or I. Especially not at first. Let us know how you do (how your Dad is)
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Med/plant interaction 2 years 2 weeks ago #15097

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PS: some people are able to combine it with other pain meds. If he's on anything stronger than tramadol, he may not benefit, but it won't hurt to TRY, IMO, and you're a special girl to wish him relief ❣️
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Med/plant interaction 2 years 2 weeks ago #15102

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Thanks so much, Laurie!

He is only on Percocet in a small dosage because pain meds ruin kidneys. I've learned that literally for every thing any pharmaceutical helps, at least one other thing will be damaged. Unfortunately, my dad would die without his medications at this point.

Just curious why he would need less than you or I. He's about 365 pounds, by the way, if that makes a difference.

So are you recommending take it WITH coffee or in PLACE of coffee? Sorry, I know absolutely nothing about all of this. I'm not sure I can even talk my parents into being open to it because of their fear of interacting with his medicines. I definitely don't want to do it wrong and make them less likely to try it again! :blink:
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Med/plant interaction 2 years 2 weeks ago #15103

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HAPPY After-Holiday, Michellerd,
I'm suggesting to brew it with coffee or tea to disguise the flavor and introduce it very subtly. IF Dad consumes one or the other. The Percocet MIGHT outweigh the kratom in the brain, but it won't hurt to try a tad bit and see if Dad feels any better. His health sounds serious, obviously. I'm no dr! But, I would try it. Simply because being sick makes the outlook on life quite depressing. Your Dad might get a bit of a mood lift at worst. THAT could help his whole health outlook be brighter. But, I understand the resistance by some of the elder people. If he won't dry it, no matter how good it tastes (as in my Mom's case), there's nothing you can do. Good Luck! HUG!

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Med/plant interaction 1 year 11 months ago #15400

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Has anyone else tried hysinga? I'm also looking for something that can be used in conjunction but without messing up the tea

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