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kratom stigma 3 years 7 months ago #2514

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Does anyone hide their kratom use? I feel like I don't advertise it because I don't want people to google it and read about the people who abuse it. Why do I have shame in my game? I innocently found kratom on a back pain website and a person mentioned it. I ordered some and of course I had the positive effects. Upon really looking into the internet is full of people seeking a high and the way they talk on other forums I just don't want to be painted with that brush! I have discussed other herbs like kava. I am known to advocate natural remedies. I also feel like since I am quiet it feels like I am hiding it. I am amusing myself with how I am treating this plant. Does anyone else feel a certain WA about kratom. I do appreciate this forum, it is respectful of the plant and seem to be filled with people that find it medicinal as well.
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kratom stigma 3 years 7 months ago #2517

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Liza: You bring up a good point. I think it's going to take some time for the more conservative crowd to come around to the facts about this herb. I see the DEA has recently removed kratom from its list of "Drugs and Chemicals of Concern".

A few people on every topic are what psychologists call "Early Adopters" -- people who check out the facts for themselves and jump in, if whatever it is looks beneficial. The majority need social confirmation and approval by "authorities" before they will consider taking up a new practice. Right now, there's so much disinformation being spewed out the TV and 'Net that the majority will be hesitant to dip their toes in the water.

It is a shame. I think somebody just needs to slip the FDA a few million and produce some double-blind clinical studies that shows what we already know. Meanwhile, the AmericanKratomOrganization.org, KratomHelps.org, Botanical Legal Defense, and some others are educating and lobbying to keep kratom legal until the masses overcome their fears.
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kratom stigma 3 years 7 months ago #2519

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Hey lisa,
I do hide it from some people.. and others I do not. My colleagues at work I openly admit that I do and I informed them on how helpful it is to me in hopes more people can endure the same relief that I have. I do hide it from my family members, other than my wife and mother in law because I don't feel that they need to know or will think that I have a bad tendency with it. So yes I definitely feel the way you do on the topic.
I don't think that those people would take the time to see how much it has helped me...
Great topic, thank you for sharing.
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kratom stigma 3 years 7 months ago #2555

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Hehe, I love the stigma subject. If you don't make a big deal about something, then most people don't think anything about it. I leave it out on the counter no matter who is visiting. Though, I put it in a container like one you might put cinnamon or loose tea into. Who is going to randomly suspect that?

Now I know the common fear if they do ask - is people are going to google it and find it on 'drug lists', Maybe they will, judge your family and friends accordingly... but that's more likely going to happen if you make a big deal out of it or over-explain it. Act like it's nothing stranger than loose tea. It shouldn't be. We'll get there someday...

If it comes to people seeing you take a dose, because its that time of day you usually do, or my mom is visiting and she picks it up for example... well just act casually, you're preparing goods to consume, use the magic bullet and some orange juice, pour in that powder.
"Oh what's that you are having?" or "What's this green stuff?" "Kratom." "The heck is Kratom?" "It's like part of the coffee family of plants or something." "So it's got caffeine?" "No but it's good for energy, I take it instead of red bull."

Now a problem might be that it sounds pretty good to try cause you made it sound so innocent after all. The rest is up to you to judge how you handle the situation with certain friends or family. I'd give them a bit of mine mixed with water. "eugh this stuff is gross dude!" Hehe maybe you'll get off the topic as just a 'weirdo drinking those nasty supplements' most likely.

Anyways that's just all musings and just-incase scenarios. I come from a sort of hippie family. I gave my mom some Calea Zacatechichi one time heheh.
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kratom stigma 3 years 7 months ago #2564

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Yes, I don't advertise mine. I wish I could advocate from rooftops to people who I believe would benefit from the plant. But paulkemp explained the issue well. Many people are too closed minded to even try to explain it (and if the google it, they get the misinformation mixed with the good information). I just pack my tea with me and take it without making a scene. People notice NO CHANGE in me and forget all about it.
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kratom stigma 3 years 7 months ago #2568

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Thanks! I appreciate the dialogue about kratom! I think I am going to take every ones advice and go with it. If anyone asks I'll offer them a cup of tea! I need to just change my mindset.

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kratom stigma 3 years 7 months ago #2584

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I feel self conscious, because I care about what other people think about me to some extent. I still make it a good point to be open about it, and talk freely on the phone in public, which is hard. Usually no one turns around to look though, so that goes to show how much attention it's getting. My fear is mostly in my mind and I know this at all times. I overcome it. I tell myself that a person of my good character must be as open as possible about it, because I represent it in some fashion, even if in a very small way. This goes for everyone though. Together we can make a difference.

When I'm in public, and I have to make a scene, I just go about my business and pretend it's like passing gas in public. Within a few seconds...they stop staring.

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kratom stigma 3 years 7 months ago #2589

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I am happy to hear about the FDA. That may help with some states trying to get rid of it right now. Just wanted to say that first.
Kratom does get bad press or people think it is a synthetic. Its an herb like tea's that have knocked me off my but harder than Kratom and they are just at the local grocery store? I find it interesting how many benefits there are to Kratom versus even tylenol or ibuprofen for pain. I don't really tell people because of judgement but it is socially acceptable to have drinks or smoke etc. Most people I know don't even know what it is. It is an interesting substance If people knew more about it I think the stigma would go away but unless your looking its not easy to find. I am happy I stumbled upon it. I also introduced it to someone that wanted to come off of opiates and they were grateful. There are times to talk about it and for me times not to.

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kratom stigma 3 years 7 months ago #2621

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I used to when I first began and for about a year after that....

However I no longer do so because kratom stigma will never go away if we continue to hide our regular usage of this substance without negative consequences except for a thinner wallet.

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kratom stigma 3 years 7 months ago #2675

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I've never really hide it from anyone but I don't necessarily scream at the rooftop either. If I do get questions I will talk about it in a positive light and why I feel like it helps me.

If negativity comes up I'm pretty quick to point out that it's been around for decades in other countries and that they should try searching "Benefits of Kratom" in Google.

Mostly people tend to think of it a Traditional Chinese Medicine.

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