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Question for anybody knowledgable. 2 years 1 month ago #4426

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Does anybody know if kratom would work for somebody who has the shakes every morning do to being an alcoholic for a couple of decades? He has high blood pressure also and his nerves are real bad, I think it's because of the alcohol though. I've been reluctant to mention kratom too him because he has been a harsh critic about cannabis use. Anybody who could give me any advice or knowledge about the subject would be much appreciated.
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Question for anybody knowledgable. 2 years 1 month ago #4427

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My guess is kratom could help here but I don't know for sure. Kratom helps calm people. Maybe he could give it a try and see if it works? And if not then he wasted 25 bucks or so.
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Question for anybody knowledgable. 2 years 1 month ago #4435

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cybin_spores, I've met people who broke their addiction to alcohol with kratom. Probably the right strains of kratom could help with the shakes. If this person really wants to fix the damage he has done, he should get on a healthy diet, with lots of fresh vegetables and supplements, especially the B vitamins, and "the works".

The nerves can be rebuilt to some degree, as can the liver -- if the alcohol stops and good nutrition begins.

Kratom can really help by getting people to start thinking about how they could improve their health. I've seen this happen for many average people who start using kratom, feeling more pep, and they start thinking about further improvements they had been putting off.

Kratom has a couple of alkaloids that lower blood pressure. So, there is a lot that it can do, if the person consuming it is willing and wanting to improve his quality of life.
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Question for anybody knowledgable. 2 years 1 month ago #4436

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Im not sure about the shakes, but mentaly it helped me 100 fold with alcohol. I could drink a bottle a night, now i mabey have a few beers a month if any at all. It changed my mind set which was shocking to me. Plus the fact that it is good for you.
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Question for anybody knowledgable. 2 years 1 day ago #4872

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Hello cybin_spores. I'm wondering if the man you are talking about has quit drinking or wants to quit. Yes, the morning shakes are caused by severe alcohol consumption over time. Usually only a drink will stop those shakes. Alcoholics are very malnourished people, even if they eat a lot. I agree with the moderator that "if this person really wants to fix the damage he has done, he should get on a healthy diet, with lots of fresh vegetables and supplements, especially the B vitamins, and "the works"."

I would add---Especially vitamin B-1, also known as Thiamine. He should also avoid white potatoes, bread and anything made with wheat and other grains as these turn to sugar in the system. There is a book called "Curing alcoholism with Vitamins" that might be helpful for someone wanting to be healed of this horrible addiction.

I have no idea if Kratom helps with overcoming alcoholism, but the reason I have started using it is because I read and heard that it helps with opiate addiction, which I suffer from. It was prescribed to me for acute and chronic pain. Now it's been going on for almost 3 years. So I am curious to know if it will help with alcohol addiction as well.

As you may know, piperine (a compound in plain ole black pepper) mixed with herbal supplements increases it's bio-availability and absorption many-fold. With tumeric, by as much as 2,000%!
Now I'm wondering if taking a pinch of pepper with Kratom will increase it's efficacy? I'm going to try that.

I wish you the best of luck with your friend. And if he's willing to try Kratom, may he have as wonderful experience as mmmkrAtom!
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Question for anybody knowledgable. 1 year 10 months ago #5724

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Hi there Cybin_spores

I noticed that you put up this post a couple of months ago so I dont know if everything is worked out yet, but I sure hope it is. I work in the chemical dependency field and I know how awful those shakes can be. What also caught my eye in your post is you said he has high blood pressure and I just put out a post naming a couple of alkaloids that contain blood pressure lowering effects.

I really do think Kratom could help this person out if it hasnt already, but if you have anymore question feel free to ask. Take care, and have a great weekend!

Justin (L)
NO PAIN,NO ANXIETY,YES KRATOM!
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Question for anybody knowledgable. 1 year 10 months ago #5729

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nw49rsfan, I'm an alcoholic, and have problems with relapse. I've been taking kratom since June and I have had no cravings for alcohol since then. I know this is heresy in your field, but kratom is soothing and relieves my cravings.
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Question for anybody knowledgable. 1 year 10 months ago #5735

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See thats the thing with me, and ive had this talk with other chemical dependency professionals, they say Kratom shouldnt be used and I say THATS BS AND YES IT SHOULD and when I talk to patients in a patient setting I have to be careful the way I put my words but I still try to get my point accross that (in my opioion) Kratom is safe to use as safe doses.

And im real happy to hear your having such a positive expierence with your Kratom, and I would say keep it up, plus Kratom is actually good for you too.

Justin (L)
NO PAIN,NO ANXIETY,YES KRATOM!
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Question for anybody knowledgable. 1 year 8 months ago #6902

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This is probably an older thread, but I'm an alcoholic and opiate addict and since I started using kratom I haven't had the desire to even take a drink or use a pill. The kratom has totally turned me off from all drug and alcohol use .. Its been amazing.

I was going to go through withdrawal from both booze and pills and,started using kratom on 11/18 of this year.. I have been through withdrawal before and even tho my drinking lasted a "short" 8 years (in 29) I still got the shakes and the worst was the restless leg syndrome all over my body. The kratom cured all of that. I started with a maeng da and moved to a red vein and my God.. I feel amazing. I can tell a difference in my entire demeanor.. I had 0 withdrawal symptoms.. And even after I go a day or 2 without taking kratom I have no PAW and no desire to use.

Kratom is the best thing that has ever happened to me. It made quitting 8 continuous years of ellicit drug and alcohol use dare I even say.. EASY?!

I got my dream job a week after quitting.. Have an a amazing boyfriend who 100% supports me and loves how the kratom has helped me so much.. A great family relatio ship again... In just 6 weeks!

So .. In short.. Yes it does help.. A lot. Sorry for the rambling :) lol.I just wanted to let people know it helped with not just the pills but the booze too :)
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Question for anybody knowledgable. 1 year 8 months ago #6909

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Hey there MelVSox,
I'm so glad everything is going so great for you! I hope all that continues into the New Year of 2016!!!
If you ever need anything on here just ask. Take care & real happy your feedback is all good news!!!

Justin (L)
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