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TOPIC: NEW FDA COMMISSIONER (likely)

NEW FDA COMMISSIONER (likely) 2 weeks 2 days ago #45210

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We have a new person taking a STEEP cut in pay for the power of FDA Commissioner:

www.cnbc.com/2019/11/01/trump-taps-texas...da-commissioner.html
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NEW FDA COMMISSIONER (likely) 2 weeks 2 days ago #45211

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The following excerpt is from an article about him from CNN.

"Unlike some other FDA leaders, Hahn has received very little money from the medical device and drug industries. According to CMS' Open Payments database, Hahn received $1,021.40 in lodging and travel money from a radiation oncology device company in 2017 — much less than others in his field, according to the report."

Maybe this means kratom has a chance of getting a fair shake from him because he hasn't been manipulated by Big Pharma. :-bd
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NEW FDA COMMISSIONER (likely) 2 weeks 2 days ago #45218

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I wish I could feel optimistic about this, but I don't have a lot of faith in Trump appointees. I do think that with all the turmoil, Kratom may just not be on the radar. More likely they will focus on the vaping thing.
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You’re so right about the target du jour not being kratom. But the similarities are deafening. The targets losing jobs and small businesses are unrelated to the illness/harm. The nonsense of it all is hard to ignore.

I’m extremely grateful for the progress the AKA is making to help secure a defense for our turn. They are kicking as$ on fumes!

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littlebar I SOOO agree with you! not trusting trump appointees and vape is the enemy right now. even though the % really aren't high compared to those that vape. and most of the 'issues' have been black market flavors and cannabis. flavorings don't matter. menthol smokes still legal ( original 'flavored' ) even though we all know made with fiberglass and can make your lungs bleed.

but its all still

PERSONAL CHOICE.

how dare you don't live by my morals and beliefs ect.. ban it all! I wanna tell em all to stay in their lane and worry bout the real issues
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NEW FDA COMMISSIONER (likely) 2 weeks 1 day ago #45229

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Littlebear3 wrote: I wish I could feel optimistic about this, but I don't have a lot of faith in Trump appointees. I do think that with all the turmoil, Kratom may just not be on the radar. More likely they will focus on the vaping thing.


Good morning all! (trying to wave wildly) You ladies look lovely as ever! And my gentlemen friends, muy, muy guapo. Verdaderos caballeros nobles.

I am a true Libertarian. The FDA, CDC, DEA and other alphabet agencies have become, very alarmingly, much like the military industrial complex in this country. They must create an enemy in which they can ALWAYS throw out a "False Flag" to go to war against. It has gone beyond the ludicrous. It would be laughable except for one glaring thing: YOU CAN NOT HAVE A SO CALLED DEMOCRACY without respecting the individuals God given gift of free will!!!! The war on drugs is a total failure. I am constantly dumbfounded by certain individuals who preach the "Cromagnon" doctrine that incarceration is much more valid and effective than interdiction! It is the epitome of arrogance and stupidity to think any government on earth is ever going to change the basic tenets of human nature. As an aside to my explanation. I understand the need to be aware of our fellow citizens feelings. To respect different cultures. (racial issues are rarely ever about color but culture) Political Correctness was nothing less than an experiment in mind control. And it's proved to be effective. "Thought Policing". Thus creating more of the tiring mindset of "Us and Them".

IF this is truly the land of Freedom. IF this is truly "Representative Government". Then let the people decide. That is democracy. Where the American people get "ambushed" is the "representative" part. Representative of what and whom? To the best of my knowledge I have never had a duly elected representative from my state send out a questionnaire, much less outright ask their constituents, what THEY truly felt. I see a lot of the "buck being passed" under the ruse of representative government.

That being said. To trust any appointee from this or many other administrations I can name (Barack Obama and Eric Holder come to mind) is akin to turning loose a few dozen rattlesnakes in your home and naively believing you will not get bit.

Now my dear friends. I think I should quit while I'm ahead. I can not help but get my blood up over the outright bullying of the American people. If it's not bullying of the American people then I am an ignorant man and someone had better explain to me (spare me the platitudes) the logic behind all of this "banning" of personal choice in the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave. What the powers that be fail to realize is one day that 'rubber band" that they seem can be stretched to infinity will indeed snap. And I sure DO NOT want to see that happen!!

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NEW FDA COMMISSIONER (likely) 2 weeks 1 day ago #45231

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I agree Robie there is far to much of left vs right going on these days.
To much hate being pushed by each side and to me it seems that the media is the biggest instigator of it all. (It rakes in the money for them.)

Anyway my research shows that the predecessor to Scott Gottlieb was Robert Califf (appointed by Obama) and he was a paid consultant for Merck Sharp & Dohme, Johnson & Johnson, GlaxoSmithKline, AstraZeneca, and Eli Lilly before his appointment to the FDA.

Here is a tweet I found by Robert Califf referring to Kratom use. (I tried to post the twitter link but it wouldn't let me)

"Only 2 kinds of therapy: 1) benefits outweigh risks; 2) risks outweigh benefits. Anecdote and social media alone is not adequate. evidence generation using scientific method is required. Here we have lethal risk and NO scientifically credible evidence of benefit."

Here is one from him about vaping.

"Former FDA Commissioner Robert M. Califf, MD, calls for an immediate ban on flavors in vaping products, a vigorous campaign to correct misinformation about vaping, and a concerted effort to prosecute those who sell vaping products to minors."

So (IMHO) it doesn't matter who appoints who. Educating those in power, as the AKA, is doing is the best offense and defense for the future of our being able to use Kratom legally.

In the words of our future POTUS.
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Hello Don. How are Liz and the grandlings? That's some really good food for the soul. Grand children. Truly wonderful years! I hope all is well.

I need to clarify a few points in my last post. As much for myself as for anyone who read it. I am not anti-government. We need good government. But it's really starting to wear thin this political Right vs. Left. And Left vs. Right. Tit for tat and GOTCHA political aims. My life is not a game nor does it have a political road it travels. But it sure seems as though that is what the political parties think. It's as if both parties are in this constant frame of mind of "payback" political means. There is no viable reason why both parties refuse to see the need to put party affiliation aside and think about the American people. Regardless of party affiliation a member of the house of representatives or a senator still is representing the people of his or her state and or district. After these people are elected they start representing their party, my opinion, and forget that they are representing ALL the people. It's the American people who ultimately pay the price for the 2 parties trying to stymie each other over issues that can go back as far as Nixon. I do know it really amped up during the Reagan years. I see extremes becoming the norm in both parties. In this day and age, more than years passed, we need both parties actually working for the common good of the American people. Finding common ground that all Americans stand on and for. And not making their first priority that which will benefit their party before the common good is addressed. And the media! I'll be very honest. Watching the news and how it is presented is like watching a really sadistic, thematic reality TV show.

I wish the 2 parties would sit down and communicate with each other. Keeping in mind not the party they represent. But at least agreeing that there is so much that all Americans have in common with each other besides their party affiliation. I really do hope this new FDA commissioner is a good person. But after reading his comments in your post I don't feel very reassured. His statements seem extreme.

Please forgive me for walking the long way around the barn. I'm apologizing to all who read my post this morning if it mislead anyone into thinking that I am anti government. I was trying to make the point that it would be nice to be treated like an adult, for once, by our government. It's beyond me how anyone on the federal level can bemoan the opiate crises on one hand yet on the other hand viciously attack a natural product which is helping to ease that crisis. And to propagate lies and skewed statistics about that very product. It's that attitude that seems far more dangerous to me than the danger of the product of which they are demonizing.

Again, I offer apologies to all. Be blessed,

Robie
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NEW FDA COMMISSIONER (likely) 2 weeks 1 day ago #45235

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I honestly don't trust CNN at all so I don't even know what to think of it.
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Hey Robie,
Liz and the grandlings are great, they keep me young (and worn out) :lol:
They also bring me joy in a hate filled world. :cheer:

Just to clarify, Robert Califf, who made the tweets I posted is not the new guy.

I haven't found anything bad or good about the new guy. Stephen Hahn :-?

Plantadvocate,
I don't trust CNN either but I can't say I trust any news organization these days, they all have an agenda that has little to do with reporting actual facts. :angry:
My Grandkids say I’m a cuckoo head. ;)
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