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Kratom for chronic pain? 1 week 6 days ago #30769

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Hi everybody. I'm a woman in my 40s currently trying to cope with fibromyalgia, arthritis, a disc problem in my lower back and I'm currently dealing with a slow, stiff, sore recovery from shoulder surgery a few months ago. I had been taking tramadol for several years which worked reasonably well and didn't have side effects for me but my doctor is taking me off it because of all the new regulations about rx pain meds. Suffice to say I need a solution so that's why I'm here - to learn from real people what kind of success they've had using kratom for chronic pain.
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Kratom for chronic pain? 1 week 6 days ago #30773

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Hello NorthernGirl,

I take Kratom for spinal arthritis after 2 lower back surgeries. I take a dose in the morning and one at night. Along with a daily physical therapy routine, anti inflammatory supplements (turmeric, ginger, moringa) and a fairly aggressive anti inflammatory diet.

I am in my late forties and have been taking Kratom just under a year. Nothing has been as successful as Kratom in managing my pain.I have little history of prescription pain meds usage because they never really worked well enough and I was using spinal cortisone injections, which I realized was not a way to manage lifelong chronic pain.

Its awful you were managing your pain successfully and because of the new regulations you doctor is not willing to continue with your treatment. When pain effects your quality of life it needs to treated like any other chronic condition. Taking a pain patient off meds should be grounds for malpractice.

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Kratom for chronic pain? 1 week 6 days ago #30787

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Hi Laurie. Thank you so much for your helpful response. I'm sorry to hear about your health issues but I'm glad kratom has been helpful for you. I've had those cortisone injections too and nerve ablation for my back and neither worked very well and they were very expensive. It's definitely been frustrating to be taken off a med that's been working but honestly I'd rather rely on nature than a doctor anyway. I just haven't been able to find anything natural that works so hopefully I will have some success with kratom (and you've inspired me to research moringa now). My immediate concern is figuring out which kratom brands are safe and potent. I watched "Leaf of Faith" last night and the filmmaker said that there are 3 companies that sell it for human consumption but I don't know which companies those are.
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Kratom for chronic pain? 1 week 6 days ago #30788

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This forum has an approved vendor list
www.ilovekratom.com/kratom-vendors
Vendor reviews
www.ilovekratom.com/forum/rate-a-vendor
The label not for human consumption-(explained)
www.ilovekratom.com/kratom-forum/introdu...or-human-consumption

My latest purchase was from Goldleaf Botanicals. They do lab analysis tests for heavy metals. I think most do on the list.
Christopher's Organic Botanicals also highly recommended.
I have bought from at least five vendors on the list (and a few off the list) and have received quality Kratom.

I also take incarvillea sinensis for break through pain. There are definitely choices out there to manage pain naturally.

Once you decide on a vendor and strains, research and prepare yourself for ways to take it. You can buy capsules but there are very pricey compared to powder.

When I switched to powder I decided to try "toss and wash" putting a clump of dry powder in my mouth and trying to wash it down did not work for me. I measure my kratom weighed with a pocket scale(highly recommended purchase) I add water stir and drink. I don't mind the taste.

Ask any question you need maybe others can add some insight.
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Kratom for chronic pain? 1 week 5 days ago #30796

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Hi Northern

There are many people here on the forum with a variety of painful conditions and we have had success with using Kratom to help manage pain. Some of us (like me) have an opiate history others do not, so there are a variety of circumstances that affect how much and how often we take Kratom to manage pain.

I take 6 grams 4 times a day. I could probably have kept that dose lower if I had known earlier about how to manage dosing for tolerance, but even so that is where I am.

I know that you are concerned about having your Tramadol discontinued but it is the absolute best thing for your health. It may be working now but with long term use it will be less and less effective and you will continue to need more and more. It is best to start looking for aternative ways to manage pain now so you are in the right place.

There is a lot of good infomration on the BLOG section of this site about how to come off opiates.

Let us know if there is anything there that needs further explaining.

IT can be done. AND it can be done rather easily too. Many here are shocked by how easy it was to replace their opiate dose with Kratom so you can too.

The nicest thing about using Kratom is that it can help to manage pain but does not bring with it any impairment of any kind. NO respiratory depression risk either so very safe!

Once you get in a supply of red strains from some of the approved vendors and are ready to take the leap let us know and we will guide you through it. You should count on using about 12 to 20 grams a day so plan for that. You do not want to run out as you are coming off the tramadol. If you use much less than that so be it...you will just have some extra in your cupboard! No Kratom will go unloved!

Also be sure to use the search feature here on the forum and search on the keywords "digestion issues" and read about how to prevent constipation. YES... Kratom CAN and will cause your bowels to slow down if used regularly
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Kratom for chronic pain? 1 week 5 days ago #30799

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This is helpful information especially since you understand what breakthrough pain is. I have never heard of incarvillea sinensis and I will definitely research it. Thank you also for sharing which vendor you went through. May I please ask how you researched the correct dosage to take? Did you start with the lowest dose and work your way up from there to find the dosage that worked best for you?
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Kratom for chronic pain? 1 week 5 days ago #30800

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Hi bomalley. Thank you for being so encouraging and for responding with such thoughtful and helpful information about using the kratom while coming off the tramadol and I especially appreciate the info about the dosage. I'm also taking 1200 mg of gabapentin daily for fibromyalgia so I'm hoping kratom may take the place of that as well. I have heard of constipation as a side effect of kratom and my strategy for that is to take two tablespoons of pysllium husk in a glass of water each day. I did that when I was taking oxycodone after shoulder surgery and when I took hydrocodone after a hysterectomy and I didn't have a problem with constipation from the opiates so I'm hoping it will work as well with kratom. When I get my ducks in a row and purchase the kratom, I will be sure to ask for advice here on the forum.
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Kratom for chronic pain? 1 week 5 days ago #30801

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I researched dosage by visiting forums and reading guides.
The recommended starting dose was 2 grams. I started with 2 grams and got results. I bought a scale and have been able to find my dose 2.4 grams for Reds and 1.8 grams for Greens. I started taking only Reds strains for the first 3 months before I branched out and found which Greens were pain relieving for me.
A scale is a must for using powder because I found sometimes a gram difference from using a teaspoon depending on the fineness of the powder grind.
Since you have been using Tramadol I would not expect 2 grams to be enough to start until you have switched over. Bomalley mentioned using about 12 to 20 grams a day, that might be the case. A 4 gram dose every 4 hours might be a good starting dose. But starting at 2 grams can always be increased. The risk of starting too high is headaches, nausea, and vomiting is the worst case scenario.
Also bo mentioned to make sure you factor having enough to start.


Here is a Kratom guide.
www.ilovekratom.com/forum/kratom-discuss...-oldies#.W5Bo1OgzqUk

Average Dosage by Grams

Mild – 1 to 2 grams
Moderate – 2 to 4 grams
High – 4.5 – 8 grams
Average Dosage by Teaspoon

Mild – .5 to .9 tsp
Moderate – 1 to 2 tsp
High – 2 to 3.5 tsp

Finding a quality vendor is important for success. We have in depth reviews in this forum you can look through. I mentioned Goldleaf because I just recently purchased from there and can attest to the quality
and customer service. And Christopher's Organic Botanicals both vendors often interact on the forum.
If you absolutely must start with capsules.I never used these vendors but they have been reviewed and they have larger selections.
kratomdivine.com/
www.oregonkratom.com/product-category/kratom-capsules/ -they cap 1 gram capsule.
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Kratom for chronic pain? 1 week 5 days ago #30802

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Here is the discussion about incarvillea. It is very hard to find information about. If interested I bought 25grams from Kratom Eye. Very Affordable.

www.ilovekratom.com/forum/general-dialog...extract#.W5BvhugzqUk

Always looking for options to manage pain. I also take moringa, turmeric with my Kratom dose,and ginger
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Kratom for chronic pain? 1 week 5 days ago #30806

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Thanks Nan. I appreciate the info and the link to the guide.
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