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Hi, new member here, and I really appreciate all the available information 5 months 3 weeks ago #40162

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Laurie wrote: You’re welcome! I only recently had the opportunity to try Garuda/HudsonValley and really appreciated the extra customer service! Happy to share that.

Our ILK APPROVED VENDOR LIST is not terribly long. It’s meant to be short but elite with regard to personal service. Your vendor has been on the list for years, but I only recently got to experience dialogue and product with them firsthand. Flawless. You’ll find similar (above par) service and (above par) quality product with anyone on our list (or let us know what didn’t go well, diplomatically). Thanks

Anyway, the DLPA is a subject I’m not the least bit educated on and would love to learn more. Please post recommended links for getting educated on that topic.

Sounds like you may not need the bowel management education, so please post questions or tips for other kratom forumites.

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DLPA also reverses opiate/opioid tolerance, works well for Kratom. I can skip an entire day of Kratom simply by taking a couple of 500 mg of DLPA throughout a day without even noticing it, I do get a bit of WD's without it if I skip a few Kratom doses. Just my 2 cents.....
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Hi, new member here, and I really appreciate all the available information 5 months 3 weeks ago #40163

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I don’t think it’s a “standard affect”, you lucky dog. That stuff would REPLACE kratom easily if all you need is an herbal pill to avoid w/d! Lots of people are TARRED of hassling with ALL THIS POWDER!

I got really grumpy after using it for a couple of days. I would say, RESULTS MAY VARY :-)
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Hi, new member here, and I really appreciate all the available information 5 months 3 weeks ago #40165

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Laurie wrote: I don’t think it’s a “standard affect”, you lucky dog. That stuff would REPLACE kratom easily if all you need is an herbal pill to avoid w/d! Lots of people are TARRED of hassling with ALL THIS POWDER!

I got really grumpy after using it for a couple of days. I would say, RESULTS MAY VARY :-)


The magic that Kratom gives you is NOT present with the DLPA. In fact, it provides no subjective effects of its own. I take my last daily Kratom dose around 4 PM and nothing more until at least 6 AM. That is 14 hours between the doses. Sometimes, right around a ten hour mark, I get a bit uncomfortable. Most wouldn't even recognize it as mild withdrawals, but I know better. It is nothing that I can't handle with a bit of Magnesium Glycinate, Agmatine, Turmeric, Cat's Claw and sometimes low DXM doses. ALL are effective at opioid tolerance reduction/reversal.However, adding a DLPA to that mixture literally eliminates ALL WD symptoms period, and I do take about an ounce per day, not a light user. I have SEVERE back pain due to a birth defect, spina bifida minora. So, I can always feel the pain relief. Now, there is NO euphoria with the above tolerance mitigators, but after a 14 hours without Kratom, I feel 100% myself after a year of use. WITHOUT the above, I am afraid to even skip a dose because I know what happens, restless legs, no sleep miserable hot flashes (!) etc.This is just how I manage my tolerance/addiction, I have to do this because I develop quite a tolerance otherwise. So far, using the above method, I managed to keep my tolerance and dosing at about 50% of my initial dose. About 7 grams, 3 to 4 times per day, I am aware that it is quite a bit, but again with the above mitigators I am able to sustain that dose level without losing any of the positively amazing Kratom effects. By the way, I am also clinically depressed and refuse to take SSRI's, it ruins too many lives, do NOT mess with your 5-HT (serotonergic) system as it is doomed to failure! With Kratom, that depression is all but gone, to be replaced with my jovial self. It is my main reason for the use, aside from the crippling back pain.....
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Thx for the info Theanine, I was not aware of that about DLPA.... sounds fascinating.. I welcomed you in the sure thing thread , but welcome again !!

Happy Sunday , tomorrow is my first day back to work and at a new job .... “out with the bad, in with the good”.... my mantra to ease my nerves.... haha.... I have a great strain to help my nerves for tomorrow and help keep my head chatter balanced and with confidence... what an amazing herb to utilize for so many different areas,

Much respect ,,!! ,,!!,, (L) Much love ,,!!,,!!,, :x
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Somethingsacredgoinonhere wrote: Thx for the info Theanine, I was not aware of that about DLPA.... sounds fascinating.. I welcomed you in the sure thing thread , but welcome again !!

Happy Sunday , tomorrow is my first day back to work and at a new job .... “out with the bad, in with the good”.... my mantra to ease my nerves.... haha.... I have a great strain to help my nerves for tomorrow and help keep my head chatter balanced and with confidence... what an amazing herb to utilize for so many different areas,

Much respect ,,!! ,,!!,, (L) Much love ,,!!,,!!,, :x


I am always glad to share whatever it is that I happen to figure out, this is why I am on here. Our collective knowledge far supersedes that of a single person, we all benefit by sharing it!

Thank You for welcoming me so warmly! Everyone on this forum has been so great, it is almost unbelievable. I am yet to receive such warmth from any other Internet forum. Some of them are filled with mean trolls bent on spreading their misery!
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Theanine,

I’m also clinically depressed and refusing ssri’s (last one I tried made matters EVEN WORSE). I might change my mind and keep trying, but NOT TODAY.

Thanks so much for elaborating on the why’s with your recommendation of the DLPA! Makes a world of sense in proper context!

Agmatine is ALSO a kratom potentiator of note, BUT it cannot be taken with food or it changes molecularly to protein. I get the munchies when I use it, so I stopped. It’s like smoking weed and not being allowed to clear the cupboards of previously rejected food groups - haha! Not gonna work!

Anyway, thanks for sharing your strategy. That must have taken a lot of time to create! I definitely know that I’m lucky to not have pain while sleeping and pain doesn’t wake me and I’m extremely grateful for that!

Have a happy Fathers Day! Many of us don’t have one and aren’t one, but it’s still a lovely day!
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Laurie wrote: Theanine,

I’m also clinically depressed and refusing ssri’s (last one I tried made matter EVEN WORSE). I might change my mind and keep trying, but NOT TODAY.

Thanks so much for elaborating on the why’s with your recommendation of the DLPA! Makes a world of sense in proper context!

Agmatine is ALSO a kratom potentiator of note, BUT it cannot be taken with food or it changes molecularly to protein. I get the munchies when I use it, so I stopped. It’s like smoking weed and not being allowed to clear the cupboards of previously rejected food groups - haha! Not gonna work!

Anyway, thanks for sharing your strategy. That must have taken a lot of time to create! I definitely know that I’m lucky to not have pain while sleeping and pain doesn’t wake me and I’m extremely grateful for that!

Have a happy Fathers Day! Many of us don’t have one and aren’t one, but it’s still a lovely day!


Honestly, do not bother with the SSRI's, they simply do not work and are only around due to their profitability to the big Pharma.

It is interesting that you mention Agmatine, because I do use that on a daily basis, but I take it in the evening so as to not interfere with my Kratom. I noticed that it diminishes Kratom's effects if taken simultaneously. However, I wasn't aware of how sensitive it is to food co administration, it is good to know, especially about the munchies! Thank you for that information.

I have spent the last few months researching everything and anything related to Kratom and its tolerance mitigation, there is much to it, including the timing. In fact, it is all about the timing. Example, many take turmeric WITH their Kratom, that is a mistake as it reduces Kratom's best effects quite significantly. Or pepper to improve absorption also induces your P450 allowing a much faster clearance rate of Kratom's alkaloids from your blood, and it may even feel like a potentiator as that liver enzyme induction causes a very temporary increase in Kratom's effects, but it is only because it is being cleared from your system faster.

I do take Turmeric daily, but only a couple of hours after my last Kratom dose and at least 8 hours before my next one, same as Agmatine. Taken them simultaneously does reduce tolerance, but Kratom's effects are also significantly diminished due to that liver enzyme induction. Turmeric too induces your P450, especially at higher doses. Anyways, I could go on about this for days, boring everyone in the zip code, my apologies....
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I find your research fascinating! Thanks so much for sharing some of it!

Thank you, personally, with regard to SSRI’s. I catch a lot of crap for “not trying hard enough” with them. Dysfunctional friends always recommend what they’re taking to sit in misery most of the time..ha!

Your bed is next to Radio Dano in the new wing..(welcome to the fam damily!)
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Laurie wrote: I find your research fascinating! Thanks so much for sharing some of it!

Thank you, personally, with regard to SSRI’s. I catch a lot of crap for “not trying hard enough” with them. Dysfunctional friends always recommend what they’re taking to sit in misery most of the time..ha!

Your bed is next to Radio Dano in the new wing..(welcome to the fam damily!)


Yeah, misery does love company in this case )). And you are trying, you're taking Kratom, which is a far more effective antidepressant than anything commercially available. I genuinely feels sorrow for anyone who got stuck in that SSRI spinning wheel because it does not work and moreover, there is NO WAY OUT, ever. ((

My mother has been on Citalopram (Celexa) for a few years now, she is still VERY depressed and unable to even reduce that dosage (40 MG) as that triggers suicide ideation in her. She says that she is far more depressed now than she ever were, I probably get her heredity, hence my own misery. Personally, anytime that I even attempt to tweak my serotonin system, sometimes right away, sometimes after some time of use, I get this horrible, hopeless feeling of depression, so my serotonergic system is definitely defunct, no reason to further exacerbate the imbalance, heredity is a %#%(&*&......

LOLz :-bd I am loving my new bed! :woohoo:
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