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uk to germay and back. legallity 3 months 1 week ago #40053

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hi everyone job at crossrail bottom out (this happens in my industry) but potentially got another job in Frankfurt. Ill find out today ! This is perfect as I can buy Kratom in Frankurt and take it back with me. Ive got to do my research this weekend on German laws on kratom and flying back with it. Im hoping I can buy and fly with it. But I think i will be doing something illegal as kratom is illegal in UK. Dont want to end up with a fine and then loosing a load of kratom.
Because i ended up not getting the rail job in London, i dont have to worry about drug tests any more B). So Im just about to take my first 3g of mixed kratom. It was a £11, 25g sample bag of the only vendor i could find that shipped to uk. So here it goes. Keep well all.
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uk to germay and back. legallity 3 months 1 week ago #40057

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@michael2015......

I hope you have no problems traveling with kratom internationally.
I for one, am curious to know how this works, please keep me posted -
Here in Michigan USA, the most common drug testing for employment is the 7 panel test, which does not include Mitragyna or 7hydroxymitragyna, and most importantly, contrary to common belief, kratom does not appear as an opiate on the opiate panel of the 7 or 10 panel test because it is not an opiate.
I was just wondering if you were concerned of kratom testing positive on a drug screen in the UK?
Perhaps they have developed a panel to screen exclusively for mitra or 7hydroxy......hmmm

Have a good day!

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Dami
"Courage is fear holding on a minute longer."

George S. Patton
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uk to germay and back. legallity 3 months 1 week ago #40065

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Thanks for the update, michael2015! I’m looking forward to your thoughts on this. Try to keep in mind that EACH DOSE will be potentially different depending on metabolism and other subtle differences. Some folks get disappointed after the first time and ditch the leaf. It’s important to give it quite a few tries before deciding how to proceed forward. But. We still wish to hear your thoughts right away and I’m sorry that job fell through. But the right one will be perfect.
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no im not concerned testing positive in the UK as long as it doesn't affect my job. you wont get in "trouble* but could potentially loose a job.
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hi laurie
today ive taken .5 of a tablespoon ( I have a .5 tablespoon measurer) . from what ive read that's 3.5g of kratom. the dosage thing is all a little ambiguous. im going to buy some digital scales. a level teaspoon of kratom = how many grams of kratom?? so I don't really know how much I took today. until I get the scales im kinda taking an educated guess. now to how I feel. the answer to that is im not sure. I think there has been an effect. did not feel energised but did feel relaxed. don't know if that Psychosomatic because im going to frankurt to my second job in nearly so many days B-)
I took the kratom on a full stomach coupled with what i think is a low dose, there was no real measurable difference in myself. tomorrow im going to start again. start with 2 level teaspoons, wait 45 mins. if no desired effect is reached, start taking another level teaspoon every half an hour until i feel something. obviously not over doing it so no more than 7g. still dont know how to judge the measurement.
There could also be the potential problem of ive got low quality kratom.i think its just a case of trial and error with dose and supplier.
just one question. should i be getting an obvious/tangible change in mood/feeling ? I just cant really tell today if anything happened. im in a good mood but today i found out about Frankfurt. i just cant tell.
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uk to germay and back. legallity 3 months 1 week ago #40077

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Great questions! Because by the time you “feel” something, you’ve probably taken too much. It’s highly subtle! Many people mistakenly wait to “feel something” and it’s more like you DON’T feel as many annoyances and pain is not as dramatic. So look for what you DON’T feel as annoyed by. And yes, psychosomatic is an issue as well as how the day is otherwise going.

There’s a big difference between TABLEspoon and TEAspoon, too. Plus different powders weigh differently AND some you’ll notice and some you won’t. But the GOAL is to NOT FEEL anything different except a little bit better. In my opinion.

Others may weigh in differently and that’s cool.

Your plan going forward sounds fine and THANK YOU for sharing your experience thus far!

It could be helpful to someone else also WAITING TO FEEL SOMETHING. It’s an unusual plant and it’s not one-size-fits-all quite easily. But if you have a light case of depression and recurring chronic pain, you’ll probably want to continue experimenting.

Either way, thanks for sharing!
Laurie
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uk to germay and back. legallity 3 months 1 week ago #40080

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A level teaspoon on average is 2 grams. A packed down teaspoon is about 2.4 grams and scoop of Kratom on a teaspoon is 2.8 grams. This is from me weighing. Sometimes you get Kratom that is very finely ground then you are pushing 3 grams.

About feeling. The factors are numerous. I was lucky and found my starting dose and Kratom that worked from day one. I have since tweaked it a bit. What I found is there are strains that do very little for me, like most white strains and overly sedating reds I feel more sleepy than pain relief. I dose lower with green strains and a little higher with reds. Some greens I have mood lift and energy but not pain relief. I am looking for function and pain relief. I found what works for me and vendors I like and have been very successful taking kratom.
Besides pain relief and function I can feel happy, much less anxious, focused, energized, and normal.

When trying kratom I find its best to order a sampling a couple Reds, Greens , Whites. A few strains of each

Sometimes a second try will work when the first seems like nothing really happened.
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