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new user and would really appreciate info 3 years 8 months ago #1978

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I have just begun using Kratom. I wanted the most sedative and have been sent Red Bali, maeng Da, Red ltm. So far I have had Red bali 4 - 6 grams daily. I toss and wash with grapefruit juice. This evening I took a teaspoon of Red ltm. I am interested in learning how to mix strains to enhance the sedative effect. I have been using codeine for pain relief on and off for a few years. I take 30mg valium to help me sleep but am tapering off these - which is how I found the Kratom community.

How long before I develop a tolerance - now used it for the past 5 days - should I take a break?

I've read the withdrawals aren't severe - I did have a pretty heavy Xanax addiction a few years ago and went cold turkey - that was hell.

Any suggestions on any of the above would be much appreciated.

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new user and would really appreciate info 3 years 8 months ago #1981

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If you keep doing the same amount daily you should be able to notice that it's not hitting you as much or lasting as long. I suspect within a few more days maybe, at least it does for me 5 days straight. Me and my friend both take a few day break at least to feel the effects stronger again. But you know, everyone's different. Kratom is cheap and not very dangerous in moderation IMHO so.. just experiment and see! Use that willpower!
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Thanks for the info - have decided to take a few days off and see how it goes. Does anyone know the best strains to mix to enhance sedation? Thanks

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new user and would really appreciate info 3 years 8 months ago #1983

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This is the ONLY thing I haven't found kratom helpful with (of all my many issues! LOL). Please share if you get a good strain for this. I just got a BUNCH of new strains to try from Green Leaf (thanks, Green Leaf!)
I use it every day to function (severe clinical depression), so naturally I have a tolerance issue now. I was almost dead before, so kratom tolerance is FINE - keep us posted! I will post any surprises from my new stuff as time to experiment allows :)
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new user and would really appreciate info 3 years 8 months ago #1984

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As far as a tolerance goes, as long as you mix up the strains you are taking weekly, then you shouldn't have any issues like Static Strain Syndrome (Tolerance buildup) my business partner has been taking kratom over 2 years now and still doesn't have a tolerance built up. As for a sedative effect, if you are mixing strains, we have people mix our Borneo Red Vein, and Red Vein Thai and it seems to give a more enhanced effect. Although our Borneo Red Vein is good enough on its own some people seek the enhanced effects and in your situation i can see why. Dont be worried about the tolerance, and the toss and wash is always the best way to go. We have some people who cant are trying to get off all sorts of pills and sometimes plain leaf doesnt work but we also have extracts that we offer them that are very concentrated and seems to do a good job of getting them off stuff and then they slowly go down to the plain leaf to maintain it.
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new user and would really appreciate info 3 years 8 months ago #1985

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Thank you for the info. I am done with my withdrawal, but planning to stock up on some more of the strains for getting a friend who also wants to get off them, now that she has seen the improvements in me over a period of time. She has clinical depression, as well. So I think once she is ready, she will regret the trepidation (should have tried this sooner).
I will bookmark your site for my next order. Got some Bentuangie that I think will work wonders for her at first. My tolerance is not high, rather I cannot get the expected time of lasting figured out. Sometimes I can be working my as$ off, and realize, "yikes, I need more tea five minutes ago!". Pills are easier to take and set a timer. Hard to set a timer for, "this part of the day, I need about 4 hours of energy, followed by REST and pain relief". Also, I cannot seem to mix the strains right to get pain relief WITHOUT the dizziness. But I may be taking too high a dose. A rounded half teaspoon of 2 strains per water bottle. Does that sound like a high tolerance? I think MAYBE...maybe I am fine. I mix n match these more than my wardrobe or my food choices. LOL

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Remember everyone is different when it comes to doses, but a good reasonable dose for most is half a tablespoon. my suggestion is taking the two strains, physically mixing them into one blend, then getting a half a tablespoon measuring spoon. It makes it so much easier to tel what your dose really is. Some people i know take a tablespoon instead of half, but they have been taking kratom for years. But again everyone is different so just keep that in mind when deciding your dose. definitely try to measuring spoon thing though to be sure.

Also, energy, and rest dont go together lol... most of the people i know take half a tablespoon every 5-6 hours. Also, dizziness, doesnt happen to everyone, and some strains from different vendors may have different effects on you, you just have to find the right strain for you.
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Thank You for the good input - highly helpful! Since I am using a TEAspoon, I think my problems are NOT ENOUGH per dose. I will try that mixing idea, in fact, I just got some BLENDS to help make it easier! So at this dose it is no wonder I am redosing so often! I will be careful when I increase the dose :) thank you for taking the time to help! I am sure others will benefit from it!

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Hey that sounds pretty neat I have yet to mix strains.. as I still have several strains on hand I haven't tried yet. I'll try it soon on a non-work night.

Being a lab-rat I recommend having a gram scale that can measure tenths (5.3g for example) to be sure your doses are consistent. A measuring spoon is close enough.. but can vary minutely whether its lightly packed etc. My scale gets put to good use for sure! They are pretty cheap online.

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new user and would really appreciate info 3 years 8 months ago #1991

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You sound like you know what your talking about but I notice you are in the US. So I can mix Red Vein Borneo Bali and Red Vein Thai? I've only really taken the Red Bali - I find maeng da does nothing for me.

This is response to message regarding trying the different strains to ensure tolerance doesn't build too much - mentioned you are in the US so might have access to more vendors than I do here in the UK...sorry if any confusion over who I'm replying to :)

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