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Aggression with certain strains? 1 year 5 months ago #12081

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Hi...

Has anyone noticed getting a type of irritated rage within the first hour or two of certain strains? Like highly irritable, snappy, and tightened muscles (like when you kinda want someone to start an argument with you so you can bitch or snap at them?) I think this has happened quite a few times with white and green strains. Has anyone experienced this or am I crazy. It usually mellows out after a few hours but I haven't been able to make connection to strains, and it's a pretty low amount (4-5 g).

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Aggression with certain strains? 1 year 5 months ago #12100

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Nothing that extreme, but green bali and red riau both get me a bit annoyed. Ive tried several, and i just throw it away because i become irritated. I don't try em any more.
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Aggression with certain strains? 1 year 5 months ago #12190

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Hmmmm. No. I have experienced this with higher doses of opiates, but never Kratom. That's pretty interesting. Which strains specifically?
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Aggression with certain strains? 1 year 5 months ago #12191

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Do you take in caffeine along with your kratom?
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Aggression with certain strains? 1 year 5 months ago #12194

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I haven't gotten irritated, but I have gotten tight muscles/headaches from some green and whites. Maybe if you mix a bit of a relaxing red in, it would help? It's worth a try. Maybe 50/50, and if that works then adjust it to see how little red you can get away with. If it doesn't, then I would add more red. But it would be a shame to toss it all together. I would definitely take note of the strains, though, to make sure not to order them again. Or, if it was a one time thing, then it could have been the batch. :unsure:
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Aggression with certain strains? 1 year 5 months ago #12198

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Yes. I was going to say that initially (similar to high opiate use) but wasn't sure if it was under guidelines. I used to get that 'pointless rage' from high doses of Vicodin in my 20s, and this felt similar. I honestly don't remember the strain. Sometimes I just mix what I have left together lol so not very much to go on, sorry. It's not major, it's just a very high level of irritability, like the desire to fight/antagonize someone. I wonder if it could be a light withdrawal symptom, as in maybe it had been a few hours since a dose? I need to be more methodical with my usage if I want to find patterns.
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Aggression with certain strains? 1 year 5 months ago #12290

I can't speak about Kratom usage, but I can talk about conjunction. Are you also using Hydrocodone at the same time? That'll do it. Also, do you use Nicotine? I'm guessing you smoke.
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First post, long time Kratom user 1 year 5 months ago #12310

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Yes I can personally attest to this (although everybody is different
, etc, etc) that suboxone :

A: stays in your system for a LONG time, and will pretty much make any Kratom u take worthless
B: suboxone REALLY raises opiate tolerance, that includes Kratom. You might not think so while you're on it, even a small amount (even like less than .25-.5 mg, and it stays in your system for days) will make your opiate tolerance very high. That's what it's made for, so you don't feel any opiates. Kratom is all natural, it doesn't stand a chance. I quit suboxone using Kratom but I had to do a LONG taper to finally almost get all the sub out of my system. I also tried Kratom while on small amounts of sub, it did nothing (the Kratom). You can't have both, or switch back n forth. You're just wasting the Kratom. Suboxone is really strong, even if it doesn't feel like it.

This is not medical advice

As far as 'regular' opiates/painkillers, i have taken them while on Kratom and still got the desired effect of the opiate. The Kratom won't 'block' the medication.
Last Edit: 1 year 5 months ago by Cori177. Reason: Adding personal experience
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Aggression with certain strains? 1 year 5 months ago #12311

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Hi Jeff

I don't smoke, but I do drink.
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