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Comparison 10 months 6 days ago #24374

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Can you experts please compare red indo and red bali
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I don't really think there's much difference besides location in which it's grown. They seem to have similar effects. Perhaps someone else could tell the difference
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Red Indo Info:

Red Indo Kratom is one bestseller Kratom strain. The premium Kratom makes it way from the native forests of Indonesia to your doorstep right away.

It is the same old Mitragynaspeciosa but with the different, red vein leaves which are prominent from the naked eye.

There is one major mid rub with runs across the leaves and divides into various smaller branches. All of these have a hue of red. You can even see a red tinge in fine powder.

Red Indo Kratom is famous for its relieving nature for stress tension, anxiety, depression, and related symptoms.

The effects are sedating which makes the relaxation even more useful. For this reason, traditional Indonesian medicines for stress have Indo Kratom as the main constituent.

If you want to try Indo red vein Kratom, there are numerous reasons you will like your experience. Continue reading to discover fascinating facts about red Indo, before ordering it for you.
What are the best effects of Red Indo?
Talking about the benefits, red vein leaves of Indo Kratom has so much to offer you. Unlike most potent trains, the effects of red Indo takes long to come.

It may take 45 minutes to one hour. It is different because potent strains usually start working soon.

But the good thing is that the effects, once they show up last for maximum with full intensity.

As you know, red Indo leaves are famous for stress relief property; the effects, which show up parallel to it, are countless.

It has a history of medicinal use. Though red Indo is a little expensive than the rest, the reasons are justified for it.

It produces a gentle stimulation at the start; it extends to mood enhancement, feeling lighter, stress relief and sedative relaxation.

All the forms of red Indo, i.e., red Indo powder, capsules of red vein Indo strain, extracts and tinctures of red Indo Kratom, all are beneficial for these reasons. Kratom community loves these effects.

Muscle relaxation
The specific property of muscle relaxation is due to the alkaloid activity. Like opiates, the alkaloids of Kratom attach themselves to the opioid binding sites in the brain.

It controls the stress level of the body by releasing certain hormones. The result is that body muscles pass through a stage of relaxation.

The stress could be any, i.e., workload stress, physical stress, etc. This stress relief is beneficial as it helps to get over a minor headache, body stiffness and contractions too.

Being red vein, the red Indo leaves are particularly useful for all types of pains. It is so powerful that you can even compare it with chemically made painkillers, which are available over the counter.

This effect starts the same way as muscle relaxation works. Kratom alkaloids after binding make the body release enkephalins and endorphins that are natural pain healers of the body. In this way, it acts as a natural painkiller.

You can count on red Indo Kratom for everyday minor pains and chronic pain diseases both.

Sleep regulation
If you are a victim of sleep irregularities and disorders, i.e., insomnia, parasomnia, night terrors, bad dreams and sleepwalking, here is what can help you.

Red vein Indo is helpful to relax the body overall. It removes the chances to think of anything before sleeping.

This is why you are most likely to have a peaceful sleep without an interruption. The red Indo users say that this effect is similar to Xanax, which is a common sleep, alleviating drug. However, side effects with Kratom are minimal.

Natural aphrodisiac
Natural aphrodisiacKratom has a natural benefit to enhance the tactile sensation.

It activates the sensory receptors even faster and as a result of which you can respond to touch.

This is very pleasuring for people who want to enjoy their copulation. In this way, red Indo is a natural aphrodisiac.

Stress and anxiety relief
Stress and anxiety reliefThe best effect of red Indo is to release stress. It relaxes the brain and the body, reduces the muscular fatigue, alleviates the pain, and all these factors make the stress go away.

Once the Kratom alkaloids start attaching to particular receptors, they release serotonin. It not only reduces the stress but also makes you feel better.

Motivation and social confidence
Motivation and social confidenceAll the above-listed factors help to make the user feel happy, confident and positive about things.

But, make sure that you don’t use it before starting a hectic day, a presentation, exam or interview.

Red into Kratom is very sedating; you will end up feeling sleepy. Instead, use it at night.

You can try other red vein Kratom strains, which are non-sedating if you want to use it before starting the day.

High antioxidant count
You won’t read it anywhere, but one hidden benefit of Kratom, mainly red vein Indo is that it increases antioxidants in the body.

These antioxidants are used in some body functions. As a result of using Kratom, your body will function better. It enhances the immunity, and you feel active.

Replacement to over the counter medicines
Due to the pain killing, relaxing, stress relief and sleep regulatory properties, red Indo Kratom is a better alternative of various over the counter medicines. Additionally, there are no side effects of it.

How much dosage would work for you?
For the newest Kratom users, designing a dose is very challenging. It should be a precise dose for initial usage. Later on, you can adjust, decrease or increase it as per your previous experience.

Start with the low dose. The experienced users believe that low to moderate dose is the best for any Kratom strain.

While using red vein strains that are the most powerful of all, the minimal is the better. It is an exception for experience Kratom users and those which want an intense painkilling or anxiety relief effect.

Starting with 0.5 grams to 2.0 grams is okay. For those that have never used Kratom before, the last dose of 0.5 grams works too.

For others, which are Kratom users, but new to red Indo, the best is to use 1.0 g to 2.0 g. In any case, they think it is not working, even after waiting for an hour, take 0.5 gram more every hour unless you start feeling the effects.

The moderate dose, which works best for everyone, after gaining the initial Kratom experience, is 3.0 grams of 5.0 grams. Anything exceeding 8-10 grams would be higher. Make sure that you do not overdose it.

Kratom is highly dosage sensitive and red vein strains are the most potent form of Kratom leaves.

Red Indo is a lot much powerful than any standard strain. Using an excessive amount of Kratom will increase the risk of tolerance. It is better to take a useful dose, which doesn’t affect your health negatively.

Are there any adverse effects of Red Indo Kratom?
adverse effects of Red Indo KratomWhen we regard red Indo to be a better alternative to medicines, it encompasses the safety too.

The over the counter medicines have addiction-related issues.

They may hinder the natural body mechanisms and create tolerance. They may leave you lethargic after continuous use.

Fortunately, if you use red Indo Kratom for pain and relaxation, there is the least possibility of any of these effects.

It would not hinder in any bodily function. Neither it will bring up an undesirable result. However, it has sedating element which makes it unfit to be used before an important event.

Among all Kratom strains, red Indo powder and capsules are the least associated with any possible side effect. It is rare for a user to feel an unwanted effect after using red Indo or any of its products.

In worst situations, the side effects that show up are fatigue, restlessness, and similar symptoms. That can be possible if you try to take Indo red Kratom on an empty stomach.

Remember this strain of Kratom is different from the rest. You are not advised to take it in the morning on an empty stomach like the rest of the strains. It may cause troubles for you that way due to its sedition activity.

Do not exceed the dosage limit. In any case, a dose of 8 grams of 10 grams can be very destructive.

The benefits of red Indo depends directly on how do you regard it. The user has to try red Indo with all its respective means and dosage as recommended by the experienced users.

The adverse effects in case of overdose include nausea, vomiting, dizziness, chills, agitation, blurry vision, laziness, fatigue and inability to think clearly.

They may show up altogether, or any one or two of them may show up. The intensity of overdosing effects varies from user to user.

Red Bali and red Indo; are both Indonesian strains?
One name, which reminds you of Indonesian Kratom, is Bali Kratom. As you know, Bali is an island, which comes with the territory of Indonesia. In this regard, reading about Indo Kratom may make you confused.

Let’s understand this with clarity. Bali and Indo are two separate strains. Both of them belong to Indonesia, but Bali is not the Indo and vice versa.

There is a vast difference between red Bali and Red Indo by effects. Red Bali has least energy boost and powerful feeling which is familiar with red Indo.

Red Bali is best for Mood Lifting, but red Indo doesn’t produce this effect. Red Indo is more of medicinal Kratom, and red Bali is more of an enjoyable Kratom yet have therapeutic benefits.

Red Indo clears the mind and helps the user to remain active and focused. Red Bali being a pleasuring strain doesn’t help in this regard. Its effects are more towards feeling better, joy and happiness.

Due to the extreme effects, red Bali has high chances to hinder with the natural functions of the body.

It may cause nausea, high blood pressure, upset stomach or minor issues like that. The extreme effects need a supremely huge dose, which is less likely to happen. There are no side effects of red Indo Kratom.

What the users share about red Indo strain?
Most of the members of Kratom community believe that red Indo is by far the best strain for relaxation with an active mind.
Unlike other relaxants, it doesn’t leave you senseless; it just enhances the activity of your brain along with a controlled stress relief. Due to these benefits, users add it to the best red vein strains.

It is even helpful to overcome sharp pain, like that of caused by chronic diseases. First time experience may induce some undesirable effects like wobbles, but it goes away on its own. There are no extreme effects reported.
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Red Bali Info:

Red Bali Kratom is by far one of the most common strains of Kratom. Known for its highly stimulatory powers, Red Bali has made its way to the whole world.

The leaves of this unique strain are larger and full as per other Kratom strains. That makes Bali leaves to be distinctive even in one sight.

The best part is that these leaves are only a native of Bali. One may never find it anywhere else. So it is easier to tell if the Kratom leaves are from Bali or not.

General Properties:
Common Name: Red Bali Kratom
Scientific Name: Mitragyna speciosa
Region Of Cultivation: Bali, Indonesia
Growth: Rapid Growth
Key Feature: Visible red color leaves
Varieties: Super Bali Kratom Premium Bali Kratom
Other types: Green and white vein Bali Kratom strains

What is Red Bali’s origin?
The name Red Bali is an indicator of its origin itself. Bali is an island which is a part of Indonesia, one of the largest Kratom growing country.

The strain has taken its title from the island where it first built. Now, Red Bali trees harvested on financial means which makes Indonesia a big Kratom seller.

The premium quality of Indonesian strains, including red vein Bali offer delivery to the whole world.

Contrary to the popular beliefs, Red Bali is not a naturally occurring species of Kratom. It is a cross species between two beautiful Kratom strains;

Borneo and Sumatra. Some sources believe that red Bali only grew in Bali that’s is where it got its name.

Other people think that Bali was used as a port to distribute and deliver the Kratom. Why was this Kratom called Bali Kratom? Either way, the mystery of its origin doesn’t affect its benefits for Kratom users.

Why is it called “Red” Bali Kratom?
Red Bali Kratom has named on the color of its leaves. Not actually the leaves but the veins inside the leaves are bright red in color. They make the appearance of Bali leaves to be red. For this reason, it is known as Red-vein Bali, or simply Red Bali Kratom.

Which alkaloids make Red leaves so powerful?
Red vein leaves have more or less 25 different types of alkaloids in them. This number is higher than other strains.

Although there is no detailed research on Red Bali strain, in particular, it is possible that it has over 30 alkaloids.

Some of the alkaloids are common in all Kratom strains. The factor which makes these strains different by effect is their percentage and quantity.

By far, Red Bali has higher alkaloids even among other red vein pressures. The highest prevalent alkaloids include 7-Hydroxymitragynine which acts as an analgesic agent.

Another kratom alkaloid such as 9-Hydroxycorynantheidine, Mitraphylline, and Speciogynine act for stress release, muscle relaxant, and additional support.

Benefits of using Bali’s Red leaves
Bali leaves have a variety of advantages to offer. This full-fledged spectrum makes it a desirable choice among all Kratom strains. Some of the most striking effects of Red Bali are as follows,

It is a natural pain relief
It reduces the stress levels
It makes a person relax
It helps in opiate withdrawal
It enhances mood
The analgesic effect
Red Bali is best known for its pain controlling and management effects. Although other strains act as analgesic agents to Red Bali is better and more powerful for it.

It is helpful to relieve in chronic and persistent pains drastically. The diverse range of alkaloid makes it extra efficient which makes red vein leaves as a natural analgesic.

Help in opiate withdrawal
Opiates are addictive agents which affect the sympathetic nervous system. Red Bali Kratom has been helpful to overcome opiate withdrawal.

Red Bali acts as a temporary receptor agonist. It works better and faster than chemical bases compounds such as Methadone.

Being a green and therefore safe option, Red Bali Kratom is helpful to withdraw the symptoms of common opiates like heroine.

Sedation and relaxation properties
Another important effector red Bali leaves its relaxation and sedation experience.

Not all Kratom strains possess it along with the analgesic feature. So this is a different combination which is only a property of Red Bali Kratom.

Stress release and anxiety support
Another prominent feature of Bali strain is anti-anxiety and stress release. These effects go hand in hand with analgesia and relaxation.

These effects may not be very high by experience. But, many users report having a dynamic change in stress levels.

Sleeping aid and insomnia
As stress release and peaceful sleep are interlinking phenomena, red vein Bali leaves help for both.

When physical pain and mental stress is under control, the result is a subtle sleep. It may also contribute to overcoming sleep disorders lie insomnia.

All the Kratom from Indonesia are known to be the premium quality.
It also includes Red, White and Green vein Bali strains.

Based on the geographical location, all Bali strains share some extra features which may or may not be present in other Kratom strains. Some of these little benefits include following.

Immediate effects
The effects of all Bali strain immediately. They don’t need much time for activation. Red Bali, being a highly great pressure start working in as little as 5-10 minutes.

Power And Strength
The Bali Kratom leaves are incomparable with any other Kratom. They are intense in effects.

Short span
The effects of these strains may not last for very long. The average time span of experiencing Kratom effects is between 5-7 hours.

Red Bali Kratom’s dosage: how much to use?
premium bali kratom dosageRed Bali, despite being a dominant strain is dosage dependent. It means the effects of this strain will only show up if the right dosage is known.

The accuracy of the dosage will help to potentiate the effects without any risk of side effect.

There are certain general dosage guidelines which are same for all users.

However, the dose may vary depending on the user itself and any experience with Kratom. The general dosage of Bali Kratom written as following.

Type Of Dosage Suggested Quantity Expected Effect
Threshold Dose 1.5 g Beginner level effects
Light Dose 2.0 – 2.5 g Completely effective
Moderate Dose 2.5 – 4.0 g Highly effective
High Dose 4.0 – 6.0 g Intense effects (risk of overdose)
Very High Dose 6.0 – 9.0 g Extremely high effects (high risk of overdose)
** This guideline is not comprehensive and different users may experience different effects.

Overdosing Red Bali: is there any side effect?
The biggest problem with Red Bali Kratom is that it is highly dosage sensitive. This fact is not exactly a side effect.

But exceeding a dose may induce some side effects. The most common of these side effects include wobbling, difficulty to focus, seizure, nausea, etc. Only a higher dose of red Bali powder, usually greater than 7g can initiate such effects.

The regular users of Kratom, be it any strain are less likely to observe these effects. Only the new users, without tolerance to Red Bali’s effects, may experience it.

These side effects are not problematic in most of the cases. Even without any treatment, they vanish on their own within 24 hours.

There are certain parameters to follow to avoid any side effects. It’s not suitable for pregnant and breastfeeding women to use Red Bali powder or supplements.

Also, if anyone is already using opiates or any medication i.e. analgesic, it is not appropriate to combine it with Kratom.

Tolerance with Red Bali use
A prolonged use of red vein Bali may induce tolerance too. Using more than three days in a row increases the chances of understanding. For the potent alkaloids of Red Bali, it is not a wise choice to use it in high amounts for consecutive days.

To avoid tolerance, use red Bali strain as an alternative to any other Kratom strain. Or it can be helpful for using off and on. Withdrawal side effects of red Bali may show up as stress, anxiety, dizziness, insomnia and another effect.

Mix and match with other strains
Many online user reviews suggest to mix and match various strains of Kratom. However, it is not a viable idea to mix one strain with another.

A higher pressure such as Red Bali Kratom has profound effects. Combine it with any other strain will induce the effects even more. The result may be an extreme overdose of Kratom which can be harmful to experience.

Final thoughts
Red Bali Strain is one of the most famous yet powerful strains of Kratom. It is native to a region which is renowned for original and finest quality of Kratom.

Red veins are distinctive features which indicate highest alkaloid content. For which, red Bali has distinctively higher effects than other Bali strains.

The results are varied but are dependent on dosage. With a precise dosage, Red Bali Kratom will work like magic for opiate withdrawal, anxiety, sleep aid, pain, and stress.
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To me, they are very similar. I bet most people wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
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Seizures seems unlikely. Never had a one while using Kratom ever. I used to dose quite heavily, and a lot of the time I was using Red Bali.
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They are both Great for Pain Relief. I would think that Red Indo would be more Relaxing & Red Bali have more of a Mood Lifting effect but everybody will be different. I think that Red Indo is a more milder strain than Red Bali but that is just my own opinion. Red Indo is more Forgivable when it comes to side effects. Red Bali would tend to have more side effects but better mood lifting properties. Most people probably won't notice much difference in the 2 Strains.
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