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How Much Is Too Much? 5 months 1 week ago #25762

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It may be confusing for a person to determine the perfect Kratom dosage at first. Many beginners do not spend the time to read about Kratom benefits concerning different dosage. It results in puzzlement and an experimental Kratom experience.

Kratom is highly tactful when it comes to dosage. The Kratom effects are proportional to the quantity that a user takes. Regardless of which purpose it serves, dosage determines emergence and intensity of these effects.

There are general guidelines available on dosage. Many users share their personal stories at online discussion forums, but it may not work same for everyone.

Some individual factors play a secondary role in effects to show up. They are not always same for every Kratom user.

The most balanced effects of Kratom only burst when a user determines a right quantity. A general misunderstanding is that using more Kratom will bring stronger effect. It may not always be right.

One cannot decide that exactly how high is Kratom overdose. During this experimental dosing, the user may accidentally take an extremely high dose of Kratom. It is highly unsafe and may bring possible side effects.

To understand how does Kratom works; it is necessary to know the role of Kratom alkaloid on different levels.

This article will explain how much is a safe Kratom dosage, how high dose is safe to use and what common mistakes you should avoid. Read till the end to know the answers.

Why is Kratom dosage information necessary to know?
The miraculous herbal tree of Southeast Asia is winning hearts with its incredible health benefits worldwide. Initially, it was only confined to its natural habitat and nearby areas.

The recent trend of switching to herbal alternatives has popularized the status of Kratom. Despite the controversies with Kratom, it is a popular herbal remedy for some problems.

Once you ingest it, Kratom works in multiple directions inside the body. The roles of Kratom alkaloids are diverse, and they range from medicinal to recreational.

The fantastic thing about using Kratom is that it will work, as you would like it to function. It plays more than one roles based on user’s requirements.

Many people wonder how is it possible for one plant to show different effects. Even with only one effect at the same time. The effects don’t overlap each other, and at one time, the user just feels one effect.

The varied effects are not a result of one same Kratom dosage for everyone. The variations in dosage bring different results.

The benefits taking from Kratom is usually a self-controlled phenomenon. A user can decide the dosage, by which, respective effects show up.

Kratom acts as a stimulant, energizer, nootropic, sedative, anxiolytic and a painkilling herb. All of these effects show up on the different dosage that you select to use.

Low doses usually bring minor and general effects. Moderate to high dose brings all the higher effects, i.e., stress relief and painkilling in action.

The uppermost effects of mood lift, anxiety relief, etc. are achieved when you take a higher dose.

A person has to set this scale of Kratom dosage all by himself. The standard dosage guideline may not work for everyone.

How much Kratom is sufficient for a user?
Kratom dosage for a userKratom dose is measured in grams. It is same for dry leaves, powder, and capsules. The initial Kratom dose, which works for almost everyone is less than 2 grams.

This initial dose initiates the effects in new users. Those, which are regular Kratom users, may not feel any effect with this quantity. However, it is the ideal Kratom dose for beginners.

Using as less as 2 grams prevents the interactions and unwanted effects to show up. It is better to start with a low dose.

It will estimate the user’s body responses towards Kratom. Once the body becomes comfortable, the dosage can be increased.

A moderate Kratom dose is between 3-5 grams. This dose brings the best effects of Kratom for almost all users.

A higher dose is usually above 5 grams. Over 10 grams, any dosage is exceptionally high, and it may increase the risk of side effects.

The general dosage guide for Kratom is as follows.

Beginner dose: 1 gram
Low dose: 1grams -2 grams
Moderate dose: 3 grams-5 grams
High dose: 5 grams and more
Extremely high dose: Above 10 grams
Remember that this is a general guideline and may not work if the user is already using Kratom for long. The long-term Kratom users need a higher dose for effects.

Latest research about standard Kratom dosage
Kratom and benefits are not a myth. It is even proven my research that Asian plant, Kratom has complex pharmacology. The study published in Journal of Pharmacology and Experimental Therapeutics in 1932 is a proof that Kratom benefits are not just a result of modern research.

This miraculous plant is a hot topic of research since an early 20th century. The complete study on Kratom alkaloids is available for free reads.

The super active alkaloids, primarily Mitragynine and 7 OH Mitragynine are responsible for most of the effects. Interestingly, you will not find “Mitragynine” in any other species from Mitragyna.

A study by the Pharmacognosy University of London England has shared results, which tell this alkaloid to be unique for its occurrence, which is only confined to Kratom.

Kratom has been widely used in traditional medicines and recreational drinks. The Microgram Bulletin by US Department of Justice and US Drug Enforcement Administration published in 2006 enlisted Kratom as one of the leading herbal medication circulating the US.

It further said, Kratom in “low dose” shows stimulating effects whereas on “higher dose” the effects are more likely to be narcotic analgesic.

Several types of research support Kratom’s nature to be highly dosage dependent. Medical Principals and Practice published an original paper on anti-inflammatory and antinociceptive effects of Kratom’s methanol extract.

The results showed 1-2grams to bring significant antinociceptive result in all models.

Another study from The International Journal of Drug Policy published the report on the informal use of Kratom for opioid withdrawal.

It elaborated Kratom to be highly dosage-dependent for its desired benefits. The study also focused that Kratom has no side effects, contrary to the popular beliefs.

Risks of high Kratom dose
upset stomachThe general recommendation to all Kratom users is to use 3-5 grams at one time. Anything above 5 grams may make you feel slightly uncomfortable. You can’t name these effects as “side effects” as they are not damaging to health.

They just produce minor effects, i.e., dizziness, upset stomach, nausea, headache, fatigue, etc. All these effects vanish within 24 hours, without any medication.

The actual side effects of Kratom only hit you when you experiment with extremely high dosage. Usually, this extremely high dosage is above 10-20 grams. The effects of Kratom are best achieved in a safe dosage.

At higher dosage, it may show a body interaction, hindrance, addiction or dependency. What a user will experience depends how much high dosage he is using and how long he has been using it.

How to determine a perfect Kratom dose?
The perfect Kratom dose is dependent upon some factors. For example

The user is new to Kratom or a habitual user
For the new users, minimum dosage works best. A moderate or high dose of beginner level may increase the chances of unwanted effects.

If a regular Kratom user tries a new strain, he must take average to high dose. The low dose will not work for him.

The user is suffering from a medical condition
All the idealistic Kratom effects are subjected to user’s health status. The effects that most people talk only work on a healthy individual.

If by any chance, any system or organ of your body is damaged or under threat, Kratom will not provide you same benefits as it does to otherwise healthy individuals.

The user is on medication
Despite having any chronic illness, if the user is taking any medication, i.e., blood pressure pills, the Kratom may not be safe for him.

It is advised to consult a doctor when you have a medical condition, using medicines and still want to try any herbal product.

Do not underestimate the potential of herbal medicines; they may interact with the chemicals of medications and cause a severe health injury.

How much a user plans to consume Kratom
If the user is consuming two or more Kratom doses per day, he may disturb his natural tolerance levels. For a safe Kratom experience, it is better to take only one dose per day.

Which Kratom strain is under use?
Some Kratom strains have stronger effects than the rest. If you are using a higher strain, the profound effects will start showing up at low to moderate dose. That is why you have to adjust the dosage with each Kratom strain.

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How much Kratom powder you should try?
The same dosage doesn’t work on all Kratom strains. Collect necessary information, i.e., about the potency of the strain before using it. A general guide as per desirable effects of Kratom is as following.

For stimulation
Kratom is stimulating at a low dose. For almost every user, stimulation is the first effect that shows up as soon as you take the minimum Kratom dose.

Usually, it starts hitting you at 1-2 grams. It vanishes when you retake the dosage. The stimulatory effect doesn’t show up on the moderate or high dose.

For energy and strength
The impacts that start emerging along with stimulation is energy and endurance. The power boost by Kratom appears when you take a moderate dose, i.e., 3-5 gram. It is the best dose if you want to have an energizing experience.

For nootropic assistance
Once that the body is stimulated and energized, the next thing that shows up in nootropic assistance.

It could be anything from mood enhancement, motivation, mental clarity, uniformity of ideas, working proficiency and what not. The best dose to experience these effects is between 3-6 grams.

For stress relief
Stress relief is a higher effect, and it cannot be achieved at a low dose. The low dose only works on building up results, i.e., energy boost, mood enhancement, etc.

The actual effects of stress relieving, anxiety control and relaxation come when you use 6 grams or more. It will make your muscles relax.

For painkilling impact
The natural potential of pain-killing by Kratom works on all types of pain, even in chronic conditions. The high dose of 7 grams to 10 grams works best for overcome chronic pain.

For opiate withdrawal effect
Kratom helps to overcome opiate withdrawal effects but only in a higher dose. Your body may not respond well to Kratom alkaloids. So, avoid generally between 5-10 grams. Anything over 10 grams is a high dose.

For Mood Lift and sedation
A higher dose, i.e., over 8 gram brings the feeling of euphoria. Kratom dosage is dependent, but mood lift is the top effect of Kratom, which needs probably the highest possible dose.

The dosage-planned for mood lift is not always safe. At that high dossing an unplanned Kratom dosage.

The Takeaway
Using Kratom for all these effects is a matter of using low, moderate and high quantity of Kratom. Whatever dosage you try, it will show its distinctive effects.

The standard unit of measuring Kratom dosage is grams only. It is same for all leading forms of Kratom, i.e., capsules, powders, etc.

The best starter dose for Kratom is anything between 0.5 grams and 2.0 grams. However, it also depends upon the choice of strain. It is a strong strain; the minimum dose will work, for the rest, the standard beginner dose is the best.

The dosage that works for best effects is moderate to high. Selecting a dosage over 5 grams should be a careful thing. Any risk or imbalance of dose is more likely to bring unwanted effects.

Ingesting within recommended limit is essential. Remember that higher the dosage, bigger will be the risk of side effects. Follow the standard dosing for a safe Kratom experience.

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How Much Is Too Much? 5 months 1 week ago #25805

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I take high blood pressure meds. I don't really feel it anymore despite my efforts. Does this mean there is something wrong with me? Heres my schedule. 4-5 grams in the morning, 2 grams in the afternoon, 2 grams at night. What's a better way to adjust this to see if it's tolerance or Not? I used to feel the greens and white a lot, but have never felt effects from a red. Why would red be the only one that's never done anything for me?
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How Much Is Too Much? 5 months 1 week ago #25807

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It depends on what effects you are seeking...if you are not in pain, and you are seeking mood lift or energy, you might not notice effects from reds as they are quite sedating and good for pain.

There is nothing wrong with you...you have simply finished your honeymoon period with Kratom.

I do not usually feel anything when I take Kratom except for pain relief. I DO notice however, when I do not take it as I am in more pain.
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bomalley wrote: It depends on what effects you are seeking...if you are not in pain, and you are seeking mood lift or energy, you might not notice effects from reds as they are quite sedating and good for pain.

There is nothing wrong with you...you have simply finished your honeymoon period with Kratom.

I do not usually feel anything when I take Kratom except for pain relief. I DO notice however, when I do not take it as I am in more pain.

I would I dose if I wanted a second honey moon.

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In my view taking Kratom just for the recreational effect of a short term "buzz" is irresponsible use. You will not get that from long term use of Kratom.

I have been told that cannabis can do this but I have never been able to get that effect from taking cannabis.

Better to have a good martini to get that effect I think. I know that would be my preference.
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I Totally Agree with bomalley. Kratom is just not strong enough to use for getting a high off of. It can cause some mood lift but it's in no way a high like most opioids. Kratom's effects is more akin to a strong cup of coffee. You could lay off of Kratom for a week & take just stem & vein. Then your Tolerance will go down some & you will get some mood lifting effects back. If you are taking Kratom daily then it's effects are not going to be that Pronounced because you take it that often. I usually have one good dose during the day that brings really good effects & for the other doses I don't feel much but that is just me. You can also use Potentiators about 1 hour before you take each dose. Turmeric with Black Pepper, Cayenne Pepper, Magnesium, Vitamin C, White Grapefruit Juice, Cimetidine are all very good Potentiators to use.
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madmaxnightrider wrote: I Totally Agree with bomalley. Kratom is just not strong enough to use for getting a high off of. It can cause some mood lift but it's in no way a high like most opioids. Kratom's effects is more akin to a strong cup of coffee. You could lay off of Kratom for a week & take just stem & vein. Then your Tolerance will go down some & you will get some mood lifting effects back. If you are taking Kratom daily then it's effects are not going to be that Pronounced because you take it that often. I usually have one good dose during the day that brings really good effects & for the other doses I don't feel much but that is just me. You can also use Potentiators about 1 hour before you take each dose. Turmeric with Black Pepper, Cayenne Pepper, Magnesium, Vitamin C, White Grapefruit Juice, Cimetidine are all very good Potentiators to use.

I just noticed sleep deprivation causes this in me. It plays a big roll. I slept for 12 hours last night first good sleep in a while, now I feel something again.

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