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Okay so I'm crazy 3 months 1 week ago #27658

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I was tested 10 years ago and have sleep apnea. It never fixed my initial problem gasping for air as soon as I drift off for hours a night. I researched every kind of breathing problem their is; central apnea, mixed apnea, obstruction apnea, cheynee stokes, sleep obstruction hypopnea apnea, odins curse, upper airway resistance syndrome. I've read text amount text of everything, all of them just trying to not suffer anymore. Pulmonologist said I do have obstruction apnea but it's treated. My problem is just a simple sleep onset insomnia and told me to consult a physicist. I cried, I felt like I would never get an answer if this guy won't work with me.. Now I'm slowly accepting the possibility. Thing is I told my physicist afterwards and she won't give me over .5 klonipin when I explained it isn't enough. She gave me a ssri that I read it increases the effects. If I give this med fluvoxamine a chance can I still take my kratom? Can anyone begin to imagine suffering for so long for a bomb to be dropped on you like this
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Okay so I'm crazy 3 months 1 week ago #27703

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I'm so sorry to hear that.. I don't think Kratom would interact with that medication. I've heard many people say they take Kratom plus other medications with no side effects. Try it once and see how it goes.
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Okay so I'm crazy 3 months 1 week ago #27715

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Valkyress wrote: I'm so sorry to hear that.. I don't think Kratom would interact with that medication. I've heard many people say they take Kratom plus other medications with no side effects. Try it once and see how it goes.

I'll try when I'm not so sleep deprived. I never thought anxiety could bust you out of sleep 100 times a night punching crap. He didn't address my chest pain in the morning and my theory at the time is I have a lot of charted Hypopnea's(shallow breathing) and slim obstructions. From breathing and not fully expanding my lungs during the night and them reinflating when a wake up would of been a more logical guess, but obstructive sleep hypopnea was out of the question for him. He just said anxiety. And my psychiatrist stand point is there's so many people that are pill seakers that people that actually need higher doses will not receive
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Okay so I'm crazy 3 months 1 week ago #27725

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Is medical and or recreational marijuana legal were you live? Mj could possibly treat your anxiety and may help with sleep.
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Okay so I'm crazy 3 months 1 week ago #27727

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hey frogs-
This is personal to me so I felt like I shouldn't give advice because I might bash the doctor too much. but I strongly feel doctors should exhaust every possible physical possibility before they start dismissing symptoms as mental. I mean everything. Have you considered working with a new doctor.
You mentioned once about Lime Disease but the doctor dismissed that, but they should at least do a blood test.

My daughter since she was 16 was feeling like an old lady. They told her she needed to eat better and exercise. I going to make this long story short. She switched to a new doctor at 19 who would not let symptoms go that didn't have an explanation. when she started to get a reoccurring circular rash in random places, wasn't large and did not bother her. The doctor refused to let it go and decided to take a biopsy. The biopsy came back as a rash that is commonly found with Lupus.
She was referred to a Rheumatologist was initially diagnosed with Undifferentiated autoimmune disease, at 21 she was diagnosed with lupus. She is now 23 and she has a validation its a chronic disease. Not lazy, having anxiety,criticized constantly that it was her diet.

That over board doctor who ordered the biopsy - we need more doctors like that.
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Okay so I'm crazy 3 months 1 week ago #27737

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No no mj here. Not for a while at least. The while Lyme disease was just a theory, I was highly doubtful anyway, I just noticed a rash and that it could cause central nervous symptoms ( like sleep apnea) after being told it was anxiety I gave myself 9 hours to sleep
The same thing was happening for hours I was highly sedated with the strongest kratom, and doubled down on the benzos. Woke up and read my chart and it only records 4 hours of sleep. It's only tracking when I finally get to sleep. This is my third pulmonologist. They just look at my total events within the calculated time frame (a.h.i) and like tonight I had 0 obstructions, 0 centrals, just hypopnea's (shallow breathing) but like I said it only calculated a certain amount of my sleep.
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Okay so I'm crazy 3 months 1 week ago #27918

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Klonopin and fluoxetine won’t interfere with kratom(or vice versa). But, kratom does dull their effects somewhat. You’d be wise to back off on the kratom and try those meds. They are essentially duplicating each other. I would follow the dr’s advice AND THEN ADD KRATOM IF NEEDED. It takes those meds several weeks to take full effect at whatever dose you started at. Probably 20 mg fluoxetine and .5 klonopin each day? That’s what I was taking. I ditched the fluoxetine to take kanna, an SNRI which does NOT mix well with SSRI’s like fluoxetine.

These meds MIGHT help you, Frogs. Can you try them without kratom?

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Laurie wrote: Klonopin and fluoxetine won’t interfere with kratom(or vice versa). But, kratom does dull their effects somewhat. You’d be wise to back off on the kratom and try those meds. They are essentially duplicating each other. I would follow the dr’s advice AND THEN ADD KRATOM IF NEEDED. It takes those meds several weeks to take full effect at whatever dose you started at. Probably 20 mg fluoxetine and .5 klonopin each day? That’s what I was taking. I ditched the fluoxetine to take kanna, an SNRI which does NOT mix well with SSRI’s like fluoxetine.

These meds MIGHT help you, Frogs. Can you try them without kratom?

It's .5 klonipin and 50mg fluvoxamine. There's no point in trying the combination now, I'm almost out of klonipins.

Does this drug really increase klonipin effects?
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Okay so I'm crazy 3 months 6 days ago #27947

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No idea if the fluoxetine increases klonopin effects. I opted out of the fluoxetine (for other reasons).

In my experience, any of the SSRI’s or kratom tend to DULL DOWN the effects of klonopin IN MY BODY.
Not sure about yours.

Usually the klonopin are used over the long term, not typically as you are being prescribed. I bet those preemies are giving you ANXIETY and it’s NO WONDER IT AFFECTS EVERY CELL OF YOUR BEING.

They say, some fathers do get the pregnancy side effects as well. You could have pregnancy illness, anxiety, and past childhood trauma surfacing as these babies try to survive. Try to relax! It’s super IMPORTANT so you can BE THERE when they get bigger.
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Laurie wrote: No idea if the fluoxetine increases klonopin effects. I opted out of the fluoxetine (for other reasons).

In my experience, any of the SSRI’s or kratom tend to DULL DOWN the effects of klonopin IN MY BODY.
Not sure about yours.

Usually the klonopin are used over the long term, not typically as you are being prescribed. I bet those preemies are giving you ANXIETY and it’s NO WONDER IT AFFECTS EVERY CELL OF YOUR BEING.

They say, some fathers do get the pregnancy side effects as well. You could have pregnancy illness, anxiety, and past childhood trauma surfacing as these babies try to survive. Try to relax! It’s super IMPORTANT so you can BE THERE when they get bigger.
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Thank you. Yeah we had another scare today, her mucus plug came out this morning, followed by bleeding this after hood hospital sent her home. I like taking reds and at least a 1mg of klonipin at night. It kinda relaxes me more. I'm just afraid of being another static of the kratom deaths from using other substances. I do have a high tolerance for both though. And for my psychiatrist to only give me .5 of klonipin a day really pisses me off. I think at least 2 grams one in the a.m and one in the p.m is about my sweet spot. I hate running out and taking more then prescribed, but .5 isn't nothing at all.
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