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The Opioid Crisis 2 months 1 week ago #30270

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I notice that the Trump administration is cracking down on the opioid crisis and wants people to give their video story about their problems with opioids and what is has done to them. I am thinking that some people on this board could tell their stories and tell what Kratom has done for them and what would happen if they didn't have Kratom. Here is the link if you are interested: www.crisisnextdoor.gov/?utm_source=ods&u...l&utm_campaign=1600d

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The Opioid Crisis 2 months 1 week ago #30279

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I think hell yeah. Gotta be proactive. But as for "the Trump administration cracking down on the opioid crisis," Gottlieb's appointment and his board membership amongst 6(?) pharmaceuticals (and willingness to leave these for only the 1st year of his FDA reign), and his absolute refusal to acknowledge this benefit of Kratom (nevermind the rest he's said about it), says emphatically otherwise. Afraid it's just more of the same old failed war on drugs with the usual suspects and a coupla more lumped in. But your idea might be a decent enough local (state) strategy. That's where I'd be putting such an effort, and with a better chance of evading the long arm of big pharma. (Hardly, I know--but you can forget Gottlieb and Sessions.)
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Plantsower,

I agree with everything except the “what would happen” part.

Predicting the future is subjective.

There are already thousands of people saying, “I would be “forced” to go back to opioids” already. Those people do not realize that they won’t be able to be “forced”. They won’t be provided that option, in most cases.

Some have threatened suicide as well.

I don’t think desperation reflects a population that is not just “hooked on something else” and in my opinion, makes the situation WORSE.

That’s what has gone on thus far with many of the stories thus far.

There are PLENTY of stories submitted to the AKA and other advocacy groups that reflect the above.
Unfortunately. In my opinion. Not that you asked me.
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Oxycodone was the BEST THING that ever happened to me!

Medicated, I was able to engage in the physical activities needed to build strength and improve flexibility which is essential for managing myo-fascial pain. For at least 2.5 years I spent at least 10 hours per week in physical activity specifically designed to improve strength and flexibility. (Yoga ad pole walking) Somedays my exercise session was the ONLY time I was not in my easy chair!

I did it EVERYDAY rain or shine ...even in the snow - I even purchased heated gloves (for motorcycles) so I could walk in the cold weather!

Once the pain was more manageable and I did not need the regular oxy anymore it was successfully tapered down.

This is how opiates SHOULD be used for chronic back pain.

So my story is one in support of the use of opiates AS LONG AS it is managed properly. Do you think they will want it?
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I think they need to hear your story because they have a very slanted view. They don't see the good in opiates and that's why they even want to have doctor prescribe them less, which is unfortunate for true sufferers l like yourself. They need to see that using opiates is not necessarily abusing opiates.

bomalley wrote: Oxycodone was the BEST THING that ever happened to me!

Medicated, I was able to engage in the physical activities needed to build strength and improve flexibility which is essential for managing myo-fascial pain. For at least 2.5 years I spent at least 10 hours per week in physical activity specifically designed to improve strength and flexibility. (Yoga ad pole walking) Somedays my exercise session was the ONLY time I was not in my easy chair!

I did it EVERYDAY rain or shine ...even in the snow - I even purchased heated gloves (for motorcycles) so I could walk in the cold weather!

Once the pain was more manageable and I did not need the regular oxy anymore it was successfully tapered down.

This is how opiates SHOULD be used for chronic back pain.

So my story is one in support of the use of opiates AS LONG AS it is managed properly. Do you think they will want it?

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Laurie wrote: Plantsower,

I agree with everything except the “what would happen” part. I just mentioned this because I am afraid they want to throw the baby out with the bathwater and make Kratom a schedule I drug like they did with marijuana. The government peeps seem to think that it is a dangerous narcotic as you know. I just thought they should be set straight about the good things about Kratom and not lump it together with street drugs. I read all those testimonials where people stated that if kratom were taken away they feel they would be forced back on opiates, whether legal or illegal.

Predicting the future is subjective.

There are already thousands of people saying, “I would be “forced” to go back to opioids” already. Those people do not realize that they won’t be able to be “forced”. They won’t be provided that option, in most cases.

Some have threatened suicide as well.

I don’t think desperation reflects a population that is not just “hooked on something else” and in my opinion, makes the situation WORSE.

That’s what has gone on thus far with many of the stories thus far.

There are PLENTY of stories submitted to the AKA and other advocacy groups that reflect the above.
Unfortunately. In my opinion. Not that you asked me.

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I wasn’t trying to put your comments on defense, Plantsower. We can disagree on HOW to get the message out. Still needs to get out

It still does NOT GET BETTER when they interfere after all the good that has been done thanks to kratom vendors, DESPITE THEM. WE AGREE ON THAT.

44 deaths that NEVER HAPPENED are not the issue, either. Since when is 44 deaths enough to get a raised eyebrow in WASHINGTON?

And I’d like to see someone GET illegal opiates now. Just curious if that’s even still possible.
Anybody know?! I’m concerned that a lot of people THINK they have that to fall back on. I hope they DO.
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I thought you meant it might be difficult to get opiates from their doctors which it will be probably. The government is already cracking down on that. As far as getting street drugs, I've never done that, but I think illegal street drugs, firearms, you name it will always be there because laws don't stop stuff like that. I didn't take offense, I just thought I upset you and was trying to explain what I meant. Maybe I went about it the wrong way, but I thought maybe some people could make a video, as requested by the WH in my link, that it would give them some perspective regarding opiates, Kratom, etc.

And I’d like to see someone GET illegal opiates now. Just curious if that’s even still possible.
Anybody know?! I’m concerned that a lot of people THINK they have that to fall back on. I hope they DO.[/quote]
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We are STILL in the same war together with NO INTEREST IN THE TRUTH in Washington on SO MANY IMPORTANT ISSUES.

It’s clear to me, they do not REQUIRE NOR WANT truth getting in the way.

Keep up the praying, though. And the advocacy is ALWAYS ENCOURAGED - even if we disagree a tiny bit on the details as to how to educate Washington. They are NEVER going to learn from history, or from facts. TOTALLY CORRUPT.

Anyone know if illegal opiates are still out there?

I’m just curious WHAT opiates and HOW EXPENSIVE it might be for those who will make good on their threats if things got REALLY STUPID...

No need for actual price. Just, has it gone UP ALOT recently?
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