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I love you all...Thank you... I still cant believe it works 2 weeks 3 days ago #36626

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I just got done giving some to a friend who's friend is hooked on prescription pain meds and gave my Kratom story and some Kratom to....I gave them this site..... and re-leaf ..

I am lucky they know me.. they know I dont believe in anything... they know I think everything a scam....They also know my best friend who's been here everyday for the last 8 days since I got my Kratom in the mail.....

And I told them I still cant believe its been 8 days and I haven't thought of taking a pill since my first dose....

I told them I have kinda figured out why it was so easy for me... The doctors put me on the 40 mg of oxycodone 3 years ago and wouldn't up the dose.. so it wasn't really working much anymore and it was only oxycodone a fast acting pain med....

so I would get maybe a couple hors of relief after I took one and then be miserable for 4 hours till I could take my next one...

So its like I was in withdrawal 4 times a day.... everyday for the past year or so...

especially since the doctors just went and pulled me off the Ativan they had me on 10 months ago..
and a physchiatrist has tried 7 different meds that made me worse.....
I really had been living a night mare of double withdrawal and insomnia.....and was being experimented on with weird anti depressive meds when my only problem was insomnia which im sure was due to some anxiety along with the pain meds no longer working.....

But know I got myself some Xanax Because I dont care if my urine comes up dirty I am not going too get my pain meds refilled I can tell... ive had myself 3 or 4 good nights sleep and I cant believe how much better I feel...

now I know the Benzos are a problem and the Benzo forums aren't very helpful trying to explain to them what happened to me and I need to go back on them and then make a plan after ive healed a bit to be tapered off them properly...

as bad as the benzos are 1 hour sleep every 2 to 5 days for 10 months was killing me....I understand how evil the benzos are and I understand how no-one on their forums can understand my justification for having to get back on them.....

But you have to pick your battles and I felt I had to Live to fight another day....

And Kratom has given me a second wind ...I had given up hope...I had been thru 10 months of supplements and herbal remedies trying to battle the insomnia.. So I thought the Kratom stuff was just another cup of chamomile tea...

I am still in shock that this stuff worked... And now I got someone else who's in almost the exact situation I was with the pain meds to give it a try... And like I said they are lucky because they know me and how I am and that I dont bullshit and dont believe in any thing .... even though I dont believe in anything I am lucky to also try anything a few times and give it a chance..

I cant believe that this Kratom worked.....

Thank you all so much. I was researching about rehab places and Suboxone and methadone and just kept seeing Kratom pop up and like I said I just dismissed it like a cup of chamomile tea....
Then I watched a bunch of youtube videos and they were either real cheesy the positive ones or they were negative ones ...

I think it was the negative ones and then reading how its illegal and they want to ban iy that made me think maybe this stuff does have something in it....and it wasn't a chemical its was just a leaf so figured it probably doesn't work but it dont seem like trying it can really hurt me especially in how bad a shape I was...

but after going thru 1o months of a hundred sleep aid stuff.. I was really negative ...

so talking to the people tonight giving them some trying to help them.... is when I just figured it out... It was the fact that it was illegal and they were trying to ban it and all the warning against it... that some how made me think maybe this leaf does have something in it....

Then I found you Wonderfull people.....and I feel so happy that I could pay I forward and tonight I just helped someone else by giving them a little hope I believe....

two more Thanks you's. thank you Thank you. I am 8and a half days clean and haven't felt this good in a couple years.....
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I love you all...Thank you... I still cant believe it works 2 weeks 3 days ago #36628

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That's wonderful! So glad it's working for you!

Are you still taking the benzos? If so don't worry. Baby steps!
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I love you all...Thank you... I still cant believe it works 2 weeks 3 days ago #36630

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So stoked to hear that it’s helped with your situation so much, I’m definitely a believer in the benefits this leaf gives!! It’s no wonder the government/ fda is starting to sweat bullets because they are loosing their grip of power with the money made off of all the meds surrounding pain meds and also the ones they give in rehab to get off of them.

I feel grateful beyond words to have found this leaf and this community of folks all trying to live better and help eachother out with this leaf being the tool that’s giving is our lives back

Desperation has faded and been replaced with hope to help with the ailments we endure..:

Your doing great from the sound of it

Keep up the good form =D> Take care
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I love you all...Thank you... I still cant believe it works 2 weeks 3 days ago #36634

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im so happy, and proud of you victor. still without oxys like its nothing! the benzos whatever. you need to sleep. 2 little ones rely on you I get it. don't beat yourself up, it will all happen when its meant to happen. my husband is the one that got me to try it. needed something; I work long hours on my feet and im no spring chicken. opened my eyes to a new normal on life.
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I love you all...Thank you... I still cant believe it works 2 weeks 2 days ago #36656

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yes I am still on Benzo .. I shouldn't talk about the Benzos here but the benzo forums don't seem every understanding/friendly..and I dont think I can talk to doctors about stuff I am getting without prescription..........because I had never even tried anything before the doctors put me on Ativan....now I am cautiously trying Xanax I am getting without a prescription... never took them before I was only on the Ativan doctors gave me for 8 years... so I have been experimenting for the past 9 days that I have been off the oxy and on Kratom....they are little little 2mg bars with 4 pieces . .. I started taking a half and I did get and hour or 2 sleep not iimediatluy ,,,I still wrestled trying for a couple hours..because I didn't know what they did I wouldn't dare take them till I knew kids were sound asleep at 10 pm...but then I would sleep from 10 to 12 and wake up and I have to be up at 6 am to take care of kids and get them on bus...so didn't dare take another one....

then 3/4 got me to sleep little faster but still only 2 hours... so then I did a whole with got me about 3 hours...I would not take another one because I have to be up at 6 am working getting 2 kids feed cleaned and on bus....biut yesterday and today sat and sun ...I did like 3/4 to get me to sleep for line 3 hours and then did the other 1/2 when I woke up at 3 am and got another good 3 hours.. I even fell back to sleep on my own for another hour or so when I woke up from that at 7 am.... and I haven't felt this good in years....I have always been scared to take one before 9pm 10 pm when I know they are sound asleep... but now I think I will be fine ...I never had a problem on the Ativan if one of the kids woke up coughing or sick I could get up and stay up taking car of them...I wasn't sure about this Xanax stuff...but last night my daughter had severe chapped lips. she can't stop licking them and it was raw... but I still managed fine waking up 3 or 4 times even thou I'm took a whole one at 10 pm and another half at like 4am....im lucky she slept lat to and I actually was sleeping till 9am,,,, and I feel great..... of course after 9 months of total ammonia getting 2 hours felt great but the past two night getting 6 or 7 hours ben if it was interrupted has been Wonderfull...
I cant write this on a benzo forum....But now I fell so much better knowing the Xanax stuff will get me some sleep but still allow me to wake up if one of the kids does....having been a single apparent since my daughter was 1 and my son 6 for past 7 years I am trained to wake up if one of them do.... and I've am and always will be when I try something that will put me out so I cant just wake up.... ive tried on the benzo forums to discuss the nesaray evil I feel I need right now but it doesn't go over well and I understand coming from what they have all been thru.... but most all the posts about benzos are about people who took them during the day also for anxiety... I never took one during the day. if crazy problem come up which many do being a single parent of two I can handle them and put out any fire so to speak... its just when bed time comes and I am all alone with my mind that I am helpless... I have been thru years of therapists ,,cognitive behavior sessions, every natural sleep aid...nothing even slightly helped....so I have come up with a plan... I want to get some sleep build my mind and body back up for 6 months to a year...then their is something called the Ashton Manual its the Bible of getting off benzos they switch you to valium then they taper really slow for a year....what they did to me just one day pulling my prescription for benzos I read now on the benzo websites is in humain ....now that I am off pain meds I am feeling like it may be possible to find a doctor to underlay plan of needing some time to recover and then picking a time to give the Ashton Manual method my best effort......thanks everyone....like I said sorry to bring uo another subject but the benzo forums aren't very understanding just like the doctors... there aren't mayor any other examples of trying to do this being a single parent of two small children....they dont seem to consider that's that is the number one concern...yes its their goal and mine to begetting off this stuff but my biggest priority right now is cleaning top from lunch thinking bout dinner getting them to bed tonight them getting ups at 6 am to get them on the bus...I dont have the money to pay for a nanny and cook etc etc.... but I started this thread just as a thank you because thanks to Kratom and you all I have taken the first huge step........thank you....
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I love you all...Thank you... I still cant believe it works 2 weeks 2 days ago #36658

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I do not know very much about xanax/benzo medicines. Seems like after trying almost everything they work for your sleep. I do not understand why the doctor will not consider putting you back on the medicine that works.
I guess they feel it has risks but don't all the others they can prescribe to you I mean ALL of them.

Sleep deprivation has long term effects as much as any medicine you can take. You obviously benefit from getting sleep. I really hope you can find a doctor that can connect the dots and give you what you need.

My mother's doctor gave her Xanax and Zoloft because nothing else was helping her sleep, she gets 2 hours and its not enough (she has age related mental decline, mild dementia** <maybe> this is another story) I bring this up because her doctor recognized the importantce of her needing sleep over other risks such as "cognitive impairment, especially regarding long-term memory" which they are treating her for.

We do not judge on this forum and we can learn from your experiences.
You are not the only forum member who benefited from xanax/benzo. If you find my earlier post I included a link about catpaw's recent experience.
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I love you all...Thank you... I still cant believe it works 2 weeks 2 days ago #36659

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victorb153-

So you’re stuck with us as your “benzo buddies”.

No big deal. I share all kinds of non-kratom stuff here and we all SUPPORT each other on the journey of improving life.

I think everyone here is cool with you not apologizing for bringing up your benzo challenges. I’m so glad you are no longer in a state of sheer terror and anxiety (benzos are quite appropriate for your absolute terror over insomnia recently).

I’m glad you’re safely checking the description with online pill identifier to be sure you know what you have (hopefully).

Can’t wait to hear how your friends are doing a few days from now.
Laurie
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I love you all...Thank you... I still cant believe it works 2 weeks 2 days ago #36665

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thanks nan... sorry about your mom... the Benzos are bad ...actually they put me on them for 7 years and I was fine...they say they are so addicting and they can possibly cause dementia and falling etc later in life..... but if I don't sleep there isn't going too be a later in life and total sleep deprivation can cause dementia and falling also.....my daughter is 8 and my son 14 but special needs so I have to make it 10 more years....I read thousands of stories of people being on benzos for 20 30 years that are now going crazy being taken off them....I have to plan dinner now then get them to bed then on the bus tomorrow.. then plan this weeks meals house cleaning activities etc...next weekend they have to attend two birthday parties... I need to make my plans for now the next day the next year and actually the next 10 years......I need something that works now will work next week. if its got long term side effects and is addicting that's the least of my problems....
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I love you all...Thank you... I still cant believe it works 2 weeks 2 days ago #36666

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thanks Laurie...you all have made me comfortable from day one... besides the fact this stuff actually works....

the other Benzo forums are getting to me and I understand why they won't and can't understand ... the two main reasons are

there are not any 63 year old single dads with 8 year old daughter and 14 year old special needs son 24/7 by themselves....so a lot of their suggestions and methods aren't going to work for me ..my children come first...

and number two most all the benzo users took them for anxiety during the day time also... I only took them at night never once during the day... I am great with two children and tons of problems putting out fires all day long.. its at night when they sleep and I try to that my brain won't shut down.. and I did a year now of every suggestion and been in therapy for 8 years ...and it still comes down to one thing I gotta get to sleep first and foremost.....

having the Kratom actually work and getting me of the pain meds is so huge its given me one step in the right direction ...but getting off the benzos is a year or more of no sleep and sorry I just did 10 months of that and that aint a possibility...

Thank you
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I love you all...Thank you... I still cant believe it works 2 weeks 2 days ago #36667

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I have used a lot of benzos. For anxiety, sleep, or to get high off them.

I know people that take them to sleep and it helps them.

Having chronic insomnia throughout my life i know how terrible you must feel. You must get some sleep.
the issue with benzos is when they are abused.
But by your reply stating your concern of when you take them so you can be there for your children and other things you mentioned..,its obv. abuse is not your intend only sleep.
and a dr should have never stopped you from taking ativan cold turkey esp. after long term use.

I'm not sure if you mentioned it but can you get a dr. to write you a script for zanax?
Getting them the other way is too expensive and you always run the chance or not getting actual zanax.

Sorry to hear that you have so much on your shoulders to deal with and i truly hope things can change for the better and you start getting some sleep.
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