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Tea Talk 4 months 3 weeks ago #41481

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Hi folks! I'm looking for the definitive factual answer to the question: "does boiling water destroy the alkaloids in Kratom powder? For my tea, I bring some water to a quick boil, add the powder and lemon juice then reduce the heat and simmer my brew for 20 to 30 minutes, just enough heat to see some activity in the glass pot. Then I strain. By the way - cheesecloth lets too much wet powder through which makes for a very "muddy" but more potent drink and standard paper coffee filters clog up immediately. Paper towels aren't much better than coffee filters. I'm thinking of trying a thin cotton muslin. Any ideas?
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Tea Talk 4 months 3 weeks ago #41486

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I think that the nylon filters Kava users use might work with Kratom, but they're yooge. Maybe there are smaller ones? Maybe a paint strainer from a hardware store?

Over at Reddit, one of the internet scientists there seemed confident about declaring that Kratom's alkaloids aren't bothered by the temperature of boiling water, and nobody contradicted the statement. On one of those internet guides the author said keep water below boiling for Kratom tea, but then was honest enough to admit that this was just a hunch, and that others said boiling water did not hurt the effects of the tea.

Yadda, yadda, yadda, by now, if boiling water made for a weaker Kratom tea then I think it would be common knowledge, and plastered everywhere. I'm guessing that there's been many thousand of cups of Kratom tea made with boiling water, yet we don't see posts of "Mwah! I ruined my Kratom with boiling water!".

I think I read some of the alkaloids are similar to caffeine, and both tea and coffee have that, plus other stuff that also obviously doesn't seem to mind being boiled.

With green and white regular tea (Like Tetley's) some use less than boiling water, but that's for taste, afaik.
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Tea Talk 4 months 2 weeks ago #41787

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I've made several batches of tea and experimented with making extracts. Boiling water may or may not damage alkaloids. I have noticed you will NOT get the full spectrum of Kratom goodness by not consuming the plant matter. There are some stubborn alkaloids that refuse to leave the plant matter no matter how long you boil/steep it. I gave up on teas, your better off making your Kratom drink with OJ, a few drops Stevia extract in a shaker cup. Taste way better than any tea.
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Tea Talk 4 months 2 weeks ago #41790

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I had to Google "Stevia" (ha ha). Thanks for the post. Making tea, beside being a tedious process, is a monumental waste of good powder, but unfortunately consuming powder directly (more than occasionally) wreaks havoc on my digestion. I always throw in some honey while the brew is still warm. I don't even try to taste it and I usually chase it with something. I have found the ideal "strainer". I have a bunch of old "gentlemen's" cotton hankies that I use and launder regularly. I have dedicated ONE of them as a straining cloth. It yields a nice amber colored tea and holds up to a good wringing at the end. As a side note: I used to suffer from GERD until I started drinking Kratom tea regularly. Lately I've been battling sciatica pain (chasing the pain - lol). I've got hernia surgery coming up soon and I'm not looking forward to taking Vicodin again (been there - done that). I'm gonna try and get through recovery with just Kratom and see what happens. (c)
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Tea Talk 4 months 2 weeks ago #41791

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My lady had two hernia repair surgeries, both times she took pain killers for three days then back to kratom, which she said was way more better all around at relieving pain without the doped up feeling ..... take your time to heal , you’ll be good , start taking lots of chlorophyll, get your blood nice and oxygenated, will help with recovery time ,

Please let us know how it goes

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Tea Talk 4 months 2 weeks ago #41814

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Thanks for the kind words.
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Tea Talk 4 months 2 weeks ago #41855

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Some trivia that may translate here about tea. All except black teas like oolong and puerh, which are fermented longer than green or white teas, brew best off a boil, 160 degrees or so. You start to see those disappearing bubbles at the bottom. Let it sit a few minutes maybe before you steep from a boil. Black teas like a near boil, 200 or so.

Not as familiar with flower teas, but the above is a good guideline for tea of the Camellia variety. Reasonable to guess it would make sense with this.
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