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TOPIC: Need Input on Making Tea Stronger?

Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 2 weeks ago #43067

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I have been making Tea from Mitragyna Crushed Leaves. I have been using White Vein & White Borneo from an Indo Vendor. The first few doses are good but after that I don't feel much of anything. That's seems to be the only downside of the Tea other than all the Work Lightly Boiling the Tea for 15 Minutes & then Straining the Leaves. I make 3 Batches from the Same Leaves & then I throw them out so I can make sure I get all of the Alkaloids from them. I mix all the Batches together & use a little Lemon Juice to help Extract the Alkaloids better. Then I add a little Honey to the Tea to give it a little Taste. The Total Tea ends of being about a Gallon.

I make a Gallon of the Kratom Tea & use a Cup of Mitragyna Crushed Leaf. The Tea is much Easier on my Stomach than Tossing N Washing it but T&W it seems to be stronger for sure. I would say that if Toss N Wash is a 10/10 for the Potency then The Tea would be a 6/10 at Best for the Potency. Capsules seem to be about a 4/10 at best for me.

Is there anyway that I can make the Tea Stronger other than using more Crushed Leaves?
Does a Cup of Crushed Leaves sound about right for a Gallon of Water?
Need some Input on Members who Regularly make & use Mitra Tea. Thanks a Bunch!
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 2 weeks ago #43088

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Maybe soak the leaves in a citric acid/grapefruit juice solution during the day, freeze overnight, and then defrost and boil for for tea?

I'd use just enough solution to keep the leaves drenched. Then when you make the tea the amount of acidity won't matter much, especially if the tea gets sweetened, because the volume of water used for the tea would be vastly larger than that used for the acid soak. But I'd want the soaking solution to be very acidic, so I'd use citric acid.

Edit: I once played around with freezing Kratom, and even went so far as to make a batch of extract that I gave up on in the final stage and just used to make a sort of super enhanced Kratom when I added in powder so as to soak up the not-quite-extract-yet that I had. I only tried that a few times, and it was "too good" or rather too refined for me to want to start using it. Too little went too far, so too easy to take too much, lol. Half of it I never finished scraping off the old pan I'd used, and that still sits in my freezer.

I mention that as evidence that I've got some related experience.

P.S. I wouldn't boil the tea down too much, and you can add water as the level of it drops. You can toss in an egg shell near the end of the boil to help neutralize the acidity that's no longer needed. Or a calcium tablet.

I avoid sugar but some honey would probably best go with that tea, though I wouldn't spurn a decent maple syrup.

Second edit: Straight up lemon juice would be acid enough to soak the leaves, or even a 50-50 mix with water might be good. Just have to soak the leaves, I don't think they need to be floating in a jar of the solution. And just soaking them means freezing them, and defrosting them, will be much quicker vs. freezing them in a large volume of liquid. You could use Tupperware, or even aluminum foil, to hold the soaked leaves. I'm not sure how a baggie would react to the acid, but it might be worth trying.
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 2 weeks ago #43120

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Thanks very much Babel for all the In Depth Detail. I Really Appreciate it so much. :-bd I will have to try that. I know that it would be Stronger than the Tea I am Currently making. I am probably using way too much Water & not nearly enough Lemon Juice as well.
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 2 weeks ago #43204

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Hey max !!

I’ve made some strong tea soaking my kratom in GFJ and or lemon juice for 20-30 minuets ( overnight I think is better ) .... use enough juice to easily saturate your powder 1/4 -1/2 cup juice ... approx...

Try making to batches of tea ...and two rounds per batch... combine first rounds from batches... this will be your strongest brew ...

Combine the second rounds together from both batches... simmer this a little bit longer to reduce the volume and concentrate it some ... this will be ( as you know) less potent than the first rounds but should still pack some decent alkaloids!!!

On your second brewing rounds... add more juice or citric acid .... (1/2 tsp or so citric acid ) ... help get the rest of the goodies extracted in better assimilation form for you !!

I like adding a bag or two of herbal tea to help with flavor.... honey or maples syrup to sweeten ... maybe some lemon juice as well...

This sounds like one way to make volume while still using roughly the same amount of leaf ... but making 2 batches instead of one ... resulting in tea that’s strong and stronger!!!!! I’m feeling inspired to make some tea myself..

But probably only one batch , about a litter or so of water and about 14 -21 gms powder soaked in juice ... I’ll let you know how it turns out .... In the past this was very potent...
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 2 weeks ago #43253

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Thank you so much!:-bd That is so Helpful. Sounds like a Plan to me. I've never really given much Thought to making Tea all these years until the Raw Leaf has been upsetting my Stomach a little more lately. You are the Best.
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 1 week ago #43348

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Freeze the leaves or stem and vein before you began. It will begin to break down the cell walls and make the alkaloids more bioavailable. You could steep them in the freezer in lime juice to get even more, but would jade the flavor a bit.
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Does it matter how long you Simmer the Leaves? I usually Simmer them for 15 Minutes but I've heard others do it for 30 Minutes. Would simmering them longer have any effect on the Potency? I know that you aren't supposed to Boil the Leaves on High but can do a Light Boil & then Simmer them.
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 1 week ago #43470

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Tea is all I ever do and mine is plenty strong enough for me, so for what it's worth here's how I go about it. To begin with I only have a small 6 cup glass carafe with a handle. I use one level tablespoon of Kratom powder (I've never heard of crushed leaf Kratom). Bring water to a near boil. REMOVE carafe/pot from heat. Stir in one level tablespoon Kratom powder per cup of water and one tablespoon lemon juice per cup as well. Stir frequently until water is just warm. Place a cone type coffee filter holder over a large (1 qt.) jar with a thin linen handkerchief as the filtering material. After repeatedly stirring until cooled, all the powder has settled to the bottom of the pot so straining goes pretty quickly until the mud starts flowing out. Then swish the remainding contents of the pot around and pour it into the cone, the cone will eventually fill with the spent Kratom sediment. The sediment should by now be cool enough to twist into a bag and wring the remaining tea into the cone/jar. It's not worth re-using the spent powder in my opinion. While still warm, I add some honey to slightly reduce bitterness. I chug one or two demitasse and chase with a sip of commercially sweetened "ice" tea. You can drink it straight or chase, whatever is your pleasure. I funnel the tea into two empty 1.15 pint "Pure Tea" brand "Ice Tea" bottles, which incidentally travel well. I keep mine in the fridge for good keeping. I do shots throughout the day, never more than a pint a day it seems. I hope this works for you.
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 1 week ago #43471

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madmaxnightrider wrote: Does it matter how long you Simmer the Leaves? I usually Simmer them for 15 Minutes but I've heard others do it for 30 Minutes. Would simmering them longer have any effect on the Potency? I know that you aren't supposed to Boil the Leaves on High but can do a Light Boil & then Simmer them.


Yes, the longer the simmer, the more is absorbed and also the less what there is, increasing the concentration. Light simmer is enough (no more than 190-200 degrees).
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 1 week ago #43473

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As I indicated, bring the water to a boil, remove the pot from the heat source, let it cool down below 212 f before you put the powder in. Keep stirring as the tea cools. Let the solids settle then filter as per my post above. If you warm up the tea before ingesting it'll work faster, but even cold it works fairly fast. Incidentally, maybe it's the lemon but this brew has helped my GERD tremendously. I used to eat Tums like candy, now only on occasion. In past trials I would use way more powder than necessary (a waste really) and I "simmered" meaning I had to stand at the stove for a half hour. I don't think high temps do the alkaloids any good. Stir, stir, stir while it cools OFF the heat. One day I'll try letting it all sit in the pot overnight before filtering.
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