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TOPIC: Need Input on Making Tea Stronger?

Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 3 weeks ago #43815

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Got it. Not to beat a dead horse (for lack of a better cliche) I found this on YouTube. It kinda confirms my original post "Heresy". Of course, one can find confirmation of one's beliefs on the internet of you look hard enough, but I wasn't looking for this. I was searching for the Chris Bell Film "A leaf of Faith. Link:
That said, I am hoping the strain explanation if fact because I have some green on its way after batting zero with my red! Best!
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 3 weeks ago #43817

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That video is referencing a University of Florida podcast by Dr Chris McCurdy talking about kratom.

Here is the link.
www.ihmc.us/stemtalk/episode-61/

At the bottom of that page there are show notes that list the times of specific subjects within the podcast.

His talk starts at about minute 21. He talks about the strains and leaf first.

Then there is talk about the use by the native malaysians as a brewed then cooled drink, that is interesting. It starts at about minute 25.

I listened to it all and it is and excellent podcast. :-bd

Don :)
My Grandkids say I’m a cuckoo head. ;)
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 3 weeks ago #43818

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Thank you Don, I'll check it out. So who is the guy in the video I posted above? I'm about two weeks into my second tub of Red Borneo (in succession) and all it does is make me extremely tired and moody, emotional etc. I am hoping it has everything to do with tolerance. That said, I'm expecting some green Maeng Da today or tomorrow and I sure as heck hope that will get me back on track. If not, I have a mind to stop Kratom altogether. Too bad because all was well until this last order of "red". I thought I might adjust but in the two weeks I have been taking it I have not and I am bummed to say the least. I am NOT faulting the vendor - let me make that perfectly clear. Has anyone ever tried to get a refund on their purchase? I would feel funny about doing that as I know there are no guarantees going in (that is Seinfeld's take on buying fruit at the market btw).
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 3 weeks ago #43819

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I’m wondering if you still have that green you liked? I’m guessing not. All ILK vendors have a return policy but it is weird how the younger people are returning EVERY TIME the kratom doesn’t work for them. It’s definitely policy and you may as well return it. Especially because it doesn’t sound like it will work for you even if you were to tackle the tolerance issue (not fun).
I’m doing exactly that while undergoing Hirsuta Only Thursday ((HOT) and my tolerance is almost down to 1 gram! It probably will be by tomorrow. Good luck shopping for greens you might prefer.
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 3 weeks ago #43823

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Ground sand??????????????
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Thank's for the encouragement. After listening to that podcast I'm even more unsure of everything than I had been. I'll send my vendor an email, I included such with my newest order. Yeah, this nearly 500g of red-b is not doing me any good whatsoever (kind of a drag actually). I really am near quitting. Too bad too, I don't like anything else, and I'm not a "High on Lifer" - fergitit.
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 3 weeks ago #43828

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Thanks Laurie, I already have some Green Maeng Da on order which should be here soon thanks. I didn't know about the ILK return policy. I'll see about that even though I still feel bad asking. I gave this batch of red two weeks to make nice with my head and it hasn't happened yet. The reference to "ground sand" was for Don about the above mentioned podcast.
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 3 weeks ago #43830

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Definitely email the vendor and be nice about it. Thanks!

Also, quitting kratom is not a bad idea FOR SHORT TERM to get the enjoyment back.

Day 4 of mostly Hirsuta and today is HIRSUTA ONLY THURSDAY as dubbed by Babel-17.

It’s really remarkable how helpful a good break can be (and not bad with regard to comfort. Hirsuta works well enough along with other botanicals we discuss here).
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 3 weeks ago #43840

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I emailed my vendor about an hour ago - and I'm always nice. I definitely feel more than just a little bad asking for exchange/return/credit because of the nature of the product. Maybe being excessively sleepy, moody and over-emotional is a "preexisting condition". I know nothing about "Hirsuta" but it sounds like something worth looking into. Do I need to know more about the return agreement ILK has with vendors? For example, under what conditions is a return warranted and so on. I can see where this might be abused/misused and could be a real pain for vendors. Excuse the italics I lost control of the "write" mode . Thanks again.
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 3 weeks ago #43843

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I’ll clarify. ILK requires that VENDORS have A return policy.

The individual vendor has the rights to SET THEIR PARAMETERS.

Hope this helps.
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