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TOPIC: Need Input on Making Tea Stronger?

Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 4 weeks ago #43846

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T4TWO wrote: Thank you Don, I'll check it out. So who is the guy in the video I posted above? I'm about two weeks into my second tub of Red Borneo (in succession) and all it does is make me extremely tired and moody, emotional etc. I am hoping it has everything to do with tolerance. That said, I'm expecting some green Maeng Da today or tomorrow and I sure as heck hope that will get me back on track. If not, I have a mind to stop Kratom altogether. Too bad because all was well until this last order of "red". I thought I might adjust but in the two weeks I have been taking it I have not and <strong>I am bummed</strong> to say the least. I am NOT faulting the vendor - let me make that perfectly clear. Has anyone ever tried to get a refund on their purchase? I would feel funny about doing that as I know there are no guarantees going in (that is Seinfeld's take on buying fruit at the market btw).


I did a little internet search and the guy in the film is Kelley Dunn and he is the admin on, forum.leafoffaith.com.

I also found that the "sand" referred to in the podcast is Silica sand which can be used to keep the leaf from clumping while it is being ground. I don't think it is supposed to be bad for you. I don't know much about it but maybe someone else here does.

I found it interesting how the natives made and drank the tea throughout the day for energy. I think he said they brewed it for a couple of hours before cooling and drinking it. And never drank it with ice?
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 4 weeks ago #43847

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I believe he is the owner of Urban Ice ... a kratom company!!
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 4 weeks ago #43854

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Yes. No ice (iced tea was probably invented on Western TV by June Cleaver). I think he said they boiled it too and they started with fresh leaves which any way you cut it has to be the the ultimate. As for the sand, ok - it keeps the grinders from getting gummed up but I wonder how much sand ends up in the powder we buy (by the gram). After I make the tea I wring out the sludge in the cloth and I'm left with something that feels like firm dry mud (?!?!). So there you have a respected spokesperson and scientist saying what I suspected all along: that there are no "strains". At least that is how I understood it. Good research and thanks!
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 4 weeks ago #43855

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Never heard of it (which means absolutely nothing). He's a dog person so he must be on the level.
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Yes, that is a help. I've since heard back from the vendor who assured my that my Red Borneo is from the same batch as the last Red Borneo that I ordered. Having no reason to doubt him, I guess the "problem" lies with me. It will be interesting to see if the Green Maeng Da I'm getting makes any difference. If not, I swear I'm going to use it for potting soil. :pinch:
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 4 weeks ago #43877

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T4TWO wrote: Yes, that is a help. I've since heard back from the vendor who assured my that my Red Borneo is from the same batch as the last Red Borneo that I ordered. Having no reason to doubt him, I guess the "problem" lies with me. It will be interesting to see if the Green Maeng Da I'm getting makes any difference. If not, I swear I'm going to use it for potting soil. :pinch:


I hope that the green works for you and you don't end up using the red for potting soil. :woohoo:
There is another forum, www.doublemherbals.com that has started a kratom swapping section. You might think of going there to try and swap it out for something else.
I don't know if anyone here has tried to do that yet. We have talked about it though. :-bd

I know that the red borneo 1oz sample from insense that I had was very good for pain but very potent in different ways at different doses. My test records show that at 2.5g for me it got rid of pain but made me mellow, which is a no no for me. It also would not allow me to sleep. So this is on my not to buy again list. :ohmy:

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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 4 weeks ago #43878

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T4TWO wrote: Never heard of it (which means absolutely nothing). He's a dog person so he must be on the level.


I'm a dog, cat, and grandkids lover. I'm must be really on the level. :lol: :woohoo: :silly:
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 4 weeks ago #43882

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Tiggermanscrat wrote:

T4TWO wrote: I also found that the "sand" referred to in the podcast is Silica sand which can be used to keep the leaf from clumping while it is being ground. I don't think it is supposed to be bad for you. I don't know much about it but maybe someone else here does.


There is such a thing as food grade silica, and I try to take it every day. It's good for your nails/bones/joints, among other things, and can even help ward off a UTI. I take a light teaspoon, fwiw.

DE particles are extremely sharp and they work on a microscopic level by getting stuck between the joints of the parasite and cutting it into pieces.
DE also kills parasites and insects by dehydrating them. It scratches the waxy layer of these organisms, which in turn leads to loss of moisture.


I was joking about my bag of silica in another post, I think it was in this forum, and it's so very large because when I went to buy it it was priced not much more than bags that were a fifth the size, and even they are way more than enough for consumption purposes.

People use silica for pest control around the home, and on pets.

diatomaceous.org/

www.healthline.com/nutrition/what-is-dia...ous-earth#what-it-is

www.bewellbuzz.com/wellness-buzz/diatomaceous-earth/
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 4 weeks ago #43891

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Thanks Don. Personally I wouldn't get within ten miles of a Kratom Swap Meet unless I knew the person very well. I can think of too many things that could go wrong under such circumstances. Swapping would mean trading opened bags/jars of powder in many instances which is problematic on its face. Just think of the misunderstandings that happen in a trusted retail environment (for example my own recent displeasure with the Red I have been using). On that note, I did get some green Maeng Da today and I think it;s going to work well. :-bd I'll save the red for the future. I guess "strains" are a real thing and rotating to some degree is wise. You see, I was working on a second 500g jar of red and just hit a wall I suppose. All it did is knock me out. I couldn't stay awake for more that 5 hours at a time. Live and learn (always the hard way in my case).
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Need Input on Making Tea Stronger? 1 month 4 weeks ago #43893

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Well, I learn something new every day.
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