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kratom alternative 3 weeks 4 days ago #44230

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does anyone know any decent legal kratom alternatives?
i cant get it in my sate anymore. . i am in my early 40s, have had depression last 20yrs, last 10 yrs have been the worst, i started taking kratom a year back and it really helps my depression. i have tried other antidepressants in the past and nothing ever worked, bad mood swings, felt high/drunk,cant sleep, etc. kraton was nothing like that, i didnt feel "good" like i was on something, i just didnt feel like my life was hopeless, i stopped yelling at people. i dont know what i am going to do without it. just once, for the first time ever in my life there was hope for a better life, now its gone and right back to ground zero. as much as i liked it and as much as it has made a difference in my life, i am not ready to go to jail for trying to buy it, i have a wife and kids and i cant put them through that.
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In Sense carries a lovely selection of alternative botanical. Serenity Botanicals also has nice alternatives.

Laughing Lion has a couple of alternatives that are in capsules. Their own proprietary blend (2 versions). I suggest you try them ALL if you can. Laughing Lion’s is pricey, but most similar to kratom.

Then there is Hirsuta, which is a sister of the species and you can get it from Tea Time Botanicals. I can’t seem to find my handy link for you right now, but I will find it and return later (crazy day). Hirsuta is considered to be a daytime strain. I like it as opposed to nothing. But. It feels like nothing but it is helpful for me on kratom breaks and I have similar issues to yours.

Finally, the sister strain that is considered more of a nighttime version of not-kratom-but-almost called Javanica and I just got mine in today and haven’t had the opportunity to try this batch, but I found it helpful when I tested a sample in the past. That is JUST IN with (unapproved for now - new business) Shaun at Fused Flora.

This will get you started on homework. Start with getting some capsules of their kratom alternative immediately and then Hirsuta from Tea Time Botanicals.

Which state are you in? I heard about kratom legality disaster in Arkansas a few days ago...
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Order this right away:

www.teatimebotanical.com/product-page/hirusta

EDIT: they know about the spelling issue on the link. Their bags also have a spelling error but they got a lot of them. So don’t worry about it being a legitimately good vendor. They are ILK APPROVED

Here’s the coupon code for the Hirsuta order:

NEWCUSTOMER10

Here’s a coupon code for In Sense: ILKFORME15%
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Here’s the link for Laughing Lion’s kratom alternative. Called KRATOX: laughinglionherbs.com/kratox-100-natural...tive-50-state-legal/

I don’t have a coupon code on file for them for ILK members, but it’s expensive, so you’ll wanna look into a discount on quantity-can’t hurt to ask

Sorry to hear about your predicament.
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www.ilovekratom.com/forum/kratom-discuss...natives#.XZAaR0ZKiUl
These are a few.

You are looking to help depression. There are probably a few more maybe that leans towards that more. Passion Flower I think is a good one. bluepages.anu.edu.au/index.php?id=passion-flower
A quick basic how does it work article.
I will try to find a few better links, research some of the things that were suggested see what you feel would help best.
Consider taking turmeric and magnesium supplements.
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kratom alternative 3 weeks 3 days ago #44260

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I would say look at these Alternatives:
Mitragyna Hirsuta (The Closest Herb Out There To Kratom but is a milder version.)
Kava (Anxiety & Muscle Pain)
Passion Flower (Depression & Anxiety)
Blue Lotus (Depression & Anxiety)
Kanna (Depression & Anxiety)
Berberine (Pain & Depression)
Happiness Tree Bark & Flower (Depression)
If anybody has any Questions about Kratom please private message me or make a Post & I will be glad to answer as soon as I can usually within 24 hours if not sooner. I'm usually on really late at night Between Midnight & 5am.
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kratom alternative 3 weeks 3 days ago #44263

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Kava and magnolia bark have not yet been listed, I would say they are also very good alternatives for anxiety/depression. But as eluded to, the best are hirsuta and javanica that I've seen, but if very severe, you can stack with kanna, kava, blue, lotus, or magnolia bark. And each of those are legal in AK, because they are not kratom :)
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kratom alternative 3 weeks 2 days ago #44312

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I'm Sure that there are other Herbs & Botanicals out there that have yet to be Discovered or are not known by many people in the US. That gives hope for the ones where Kratom is Illegal. I'm sure there is something Similar out there to Kratom that has yet to be found because we know of a few Herbs that have Alkaloids that are Similar but the effects just aren't as strong as Kratom. I've heard of a Few Herbs in the Amazon Jungle that can give similar effects to Kratom but they haven't been proven yet. I've yet to find out their names.
If anybody has any Questions about Kratom please private message me or make a Post & I will be glad to answer as soon as I can usually within 24 hours if not sooner. I'm usually on really late at night Between Midnight & 5am.
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