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Kratom and addiction. 3 weeks 6 hours ago #44397

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I read the excerpt below on a kratom website It says "do not use kratom on consecutive days" ...."use only 2 or 3 times a week."
Are these norms accepted guidlelines on this forum?

"How Frequently Should Kratom be Used?
Using Kratom too much can be habit forming, therefore, it is important to control its frequency of consumption.
It is generally advised to restrict the consumption of Kratom to twice or three times per week unless your condition requires.  Keeping a record of Kratom consumption on a calendar can also help use it responsibly while avoiding addiction.
To avoid any possibility of addiction or tolerance, Kratom should not be used on consecutive days.  A gap of one or two days between two successive dosages would be ideal to prevent any addiction and/or tolerance.
Finding the best dosage and method of consuming Kratom can be challenging and may require trial error.  However, by considering all the factors mentioned above, the benefits of Kratom can be enjoyed while preventing the pitfalls.’
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Kratom and addiction. 3 weeks 5 hours ago #44398

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We don’t diagnose kratom use. That information is very reasonable and I tend to agree with that personally. Not representing the forum - just my personal opinion.

People do abuse kratom and get stuck withdrawing from this plant - a tool for relieving the pain and anxiety of opiate withdrawal.

Moderation is ideal and smaller doses are both more effective as well as beneficial.

Some people find ways to abuse kratom, just like ANY other substance people abuse. Then they get very mad AT THE SUBSTANCE and take zero responsibility.

I use it for medicinal benefits and not for recreational purposes but there are people who use it for recreational purposes.

EDIT: great question and I will be interested to hear other opinions here.! Thanks, Jerry!
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Kratom and addiction. 3 weeks 5 hours ago #44401

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Jyd wrote: I read the excerpt below on a kratom website It says "do not use kratom on consecutive days" ...."use only 2 or 3 times a week."
Are these norms accepted guidlelines on this forum?

"How Frequently Should Kratom be Used?
Using Kratom too much can be habit forming, therefore, it is important to control its frequency of consumption.
It is generally advised to restrict the consumption of Kratom to twice or three times per week unless your condition requires.  Keeping a record of Kratom consumption on a calendar can also help use it responsibly while avoiding addiction.
To avoid any possibility of addiction or tolerance, Kratom should not be used on consecutive days.  A gap of one or two days between two successive dosages would be ideal to prevent any addiction and/or tolerance.
Finding the best dosage and method of consuming Kratom can be challenging and may require trial error.  However, by considering all the factors mentioned above, the benefits of Kratom can be enjoyed while preventing the pitfalls.’


I take Kratom EVERYDAY - four times a day.

If you want to get off opiates you have to take it regularly to keep withdrawal symptoms at bay.
if you are trying to treat chronic pain you may have to take it regularly - everyday.

I think these are suggestions for recreational use. Along with many other people, I use it therapeutically.

Please do not overthink this...there is NOTHING about Kratom that is more dangerous than the medicines you are currently taking - yet you continue to take them everyday.

One step at a time......
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Kratom and addiction. 3 weeks 3 hours ago #44413

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Hey JYD,

Yeah , everyone has there own comfort zone as far as frequency of use for any substance you choose to take, herbsband otherwise...

I use kratom for chronic pain, -3-5 x a day, for over two years , best relief I’ve ever found for my ailments..

If I were to stop abruptly, I’m positive I’d have some WD symptoms but mostly the pain creeping back , which I don’t want and that pain is what brought in my depression and anxiety , ever since I’ve been taking kratom, my symptoms are 70-80 % cut ...

So it’s something im ok with being dependent on a leaf that helps me better than anything else ... but dependent not addicted...

Another way to look at it is if you drink coffee everyday for years on end and stop , you’ll feel symptoms from “lack of caffeine “, but that will subside after time ...

I see it as with most things you take dailybover a long period of time , there will be an adjustment period .

I agree with Bomalley , one thing at a time... and getting off the tramadal is a very good decision, really good..

Taking a herb like kratom is incomparably safer than 99% prescription meds and probably the same for over the counter meds ( my understanding)

Your doing great my friend, kratom is a tool, use it with respect amdbas often as you feel beneficial to help you with the process of getting off meds ... my two “sense “

Good job my friend , (L)
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Kratom and addiction. 2 weeks 6 days ago #44427

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I see a problem though. My pain specialist has diagnosed my condition as MOH. Or medicine overuse headaches. A chronic daily headache condition. He even gave me a 6 page article from the headache journal, showing a mri of MOH brains with scabbing shown while taking medication for headaches but when the medication for headaches is stopped the scabbing heals on its own. however the scabbing from addiction does not go away, the damage remains.
I asked him if I could take one of the new routine drugs for withdrawal such as the new wonder withdrawal drug ‘suboxodone’. Or something like that . He dismissed it and said they can cause rebound headaches . we have to get you off EVERYTHING to rule out MOH first , the most logical culprit. if the headaches persist and it is not MOH. then try Botox, cbd oil or any other treatment option.
I have been trying kratom hoping that a) I can withdraw faster, and b) kratom is not also likely to cause rebound headaches.
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Kratom and addiction. 2 weeks 6 days ago #44434

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I have been taking Kratom every day. However, I have 3 strains that I rotate through to try to avoid stagnant strain syndrom. I found out the coolest thing today- less really is more! I have always been the type of person that wants to take as much as possible to get the best results and that has been my initial experience with Kratom. I never even tried a dose smaller than 4g until today. This week I noticed that my tolerance and the effects of my kratom were getting worse so I stared to increase. I went up to 20g yesterday and did not feel great. Today I tried to take the advice of some of the people on this forum and go small. I took 2.5g of White Maeng Da then 1 hour took 1 more gram. I have to tell you, I feel incredible. No anxiety whatsoever and in a happy place. This plant truly amazes me. I always wondered why I only got the sedative effects and never the energy boost that most expect with this plant. The problem was, I was taking way to much! Moving forward smaller doses are going to be my target. Of course, today is my first time trying it. I'd like to see if it will work the same with my red maeng da and super green malay. Can't believe I've been wasting so much Kratom all this time....... To the other point, I was a daily kratom user for 6 months generally taking anywhere from 20-30g per day. I decided to take an 8 day break and I did have some mild withdrawal symptoms like increased anxiety but overall it wasn't bad at all.
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Kratom and addiction. 2 weeks 6 days ago #44435

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The less you take daily, the fewer and milder effects when you stop, too!

Don’t feel alone! Everyone says, “NOT FOR ME. I’m in MORE discomfort and require MORE!”

Congratulations!

You may get varying results from those other strains. Expecting “the same results” can be a little deflating. But, you’ll soon find your sweet spot and people like you are VERY IMPORTANT to this forum. Your experience can help OTHER PEOPLE, and I thank you for posting your discovery!

I STILL make the error of, “I feel pretty good. I don’t want it to end anytime soon, because I have a lot left to do” followed by too much, too soon.

Your bowels will be thrilled at processing less leaf material! Hallelujah!
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Kratom and addiction. 2 weeks 6 days ago #44440

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Much appreciated and glad to be here :cheer:

It's amazing really. It's 3 hours since my small dose and I still feel amazing. Yesterday I had to take 6g at a time of super green malay and I only felt spacey and tired. Less is more is my new motto! I will keep you and everyone updated on how I do with my other strains to see if I get the same results. Can't believe it took me 6 months to figure this out! I think it's just my addictive personality. I never want a little bit of anything. It's either all or nothing. Even though I feel great right now my mind is still telling me to reach for the bag because I've made that a habit. I hope that anyone new to kratom sees this and starts small unlike I did. The results speak for themselves.
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Kratom and addiction. 2 weeks 6 days ago #44443

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Kratom is a lot like Coffee. Most people who Drink Coffee drink it Everyday & most people who Take Kratom will take it Everyday as well. It depends on the Person as to how often they will take it.


RagnarsFury40, I Totally Agree with you. Taking the Least Amount Possible is the Best Way to Go with Kratom.
If anybody has any Questions about Kratom please private message me or make a Post & I will be glad to answer as soon as I can usually within 24 hours if not sooner. I'm usually on really late at night Between Midnight & 5am.
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Kratom and addiction. 2 weeks 6 days ago #44456

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RagnarsFury40:

You have just confirmed my hypothesis that the weaker alkaloids in Kratom are beneficial for the mood effects. Taking less often gives a better result as their effects are not overpowered by the stronger alkaloids (pain relievers).

I am glad your experiments are working for you.
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