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First week- what I've learned 1 year 4 months ago #11836

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Hey everyone! Just wanted to share my experiences thus far. First-Kratom is NOT what I expected, but in a good way. I haven't found the "euphoria" others have spoken of...there is no "high" to be had which for me is a good thing. Imo it's like Kratom has its own built-in anti-abuse mechanism. Too much ruins the positive effects it has for me, and makes me drowsy or feel like crap. I've been burning 2-3 grams of white horn Kali with about 1.5-2 grams of red horn Malaysian before work, and then again 4-5 hrs after. This gives me a clean energy, allowing me to focus, and provides excellent pain relief throughout the day. In the evening 3 grams of red with 1 of the white is relaxing without sedation. Before bed 6 grams of red horn, and I sleep like a baby. I found I can completely alter it's effect with only a small change in the amount burned, which amazes me. I feel positive, productive, and just all around "at ease" now WITHOUT PILLS. I honestly didn't think I would ever be able to without opiates, but I'm a believer now. My only regret so far is only getting two kinds my first order! Lol...I've got some green hulu kapuas, and green MD coming from SoCal herbal remedies tomorrow! Monday I'll have they're Elephant, and red hulu kapuas...needless to say I'm excited. Any opinions on these kinds? Also got my PDO order today of more red horn Malaysian (awesome aroma), and some spiked red indo ( I think I like this even more than the Malaysian) for my go to strains...anyway, I've babbled long enough.. lol...thank you all for sharing your experience here on the forum. Fear of Kratom not working, or getting screwed by a vendor kept me from trying it for the longest, until I found this forum. A big thank you to everyone from the bottom of my heart.
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First week- what I've learned 1 year 4 months ago #11837

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Glad to hear things are going as planned. Kratom is pretty awesome! You are right about the built in mechanism, you don't want to abuse it, it won't let you. I really like the red hulu from socalHR, it's a great red with a great feeling. The green MD is pretty good too. I haven't tried the Green hulu, I have some that came in the mail a few days ago, but haven't tried it yet, I'm waiting for tomorrow probably. The reviews on it sounded worth trying, I always like trying new kinds. keep on keepin' on.
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First week- what I've learned 1 year 4 months ago #11838

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I'm actually super stoked about trying out a variety of Kratom. Although my experience is limited to three kinds right now, I can already tell the little subtle differences, and how they vary with the amount burned. It's crazy how powerful, yet subtle Kratom is. I learned the hard way with the white horn I have...lol...it's pretty strong! Also I wanted to ask-is 4 hrs considered to be about average time for a burn? That's when I start to notice that I don't really feel it anymore. I can go 8-10 hrs before I feel any WD's coming back which itself is a godsend. Right now I'm at about 10-12 grams a day (is that a lot?) and hoping to be able to decrease that by rotating strains.
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First week- what I've learned 1 year 4 months ago #11840

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4 Hours seems to be about average for burn time. Usually whites burnout the quickest and Green Malay is supposed to be one if not the longest burning strain. As far is 10-12 alot. There is not a hard, fast rule what is considered a lot. I personally usually burn 12-14 grams per. day. Sometimes a little less. I tend to do my largest burn of 5-8 grams in the evening. My day burns are around 2.5 to 3 grams each.
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Hey SteveO, glad to hear you're doing better these days. I know what a relief it was for me to have found kratom and once I sorted through all the different strains, I felt so much better.

I agree totally with gman, on average the burns last 4 to 5 hours before they start wearing off. Considering you're just coming off opiates, that's not a lot at all. Don't let the withdrawals get you down. They may hang around for a while depending on how long you were taking opiates. They will get better with time, I occasionally still have Mild symptoms but will take them any day compared to how it was.
I don't think you can go wrong with SoCal I have yet to be disappointed with anything from them.

Hang in there man!
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First week- what I've learned 1 year 4 months ago #11842

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Thanks guys! Good to know I'm burning an "average" amount. I've been spacing it out over 4 sessions, and my largest burn at night like gman said. Gman you should try the white horn Kali from PDO if you haven't already. It lasts just as long as the red does with with good pain relief, and They have great synergy together as well. Burned 6 grams of this red spiked leaf indo about an hour ago instead of the red horn Malaysian...strangely enough I feel like it's going to keep me awake, where the Malaysian would have me asleep already. It's a peaceful, relaxed mental alertness, if that makes sense? Feeling very content right now B) yet at the same time feel if I were to get up, and start cleaning, or working the energetic feeling would increase. I've noticed after burning Kratom that "A body in motion tends to stay in motion" :cheer: Anyone relate to what I'm saying? Anyhow, a few questions for everyone tonight- Which red, and which green do you find to last the longest, and where did you order it? Any yellows that you've found to be exceptional or worth trying? And, lastly...any difference in effect between crushed/chopped leaf and powder of the same strain? Sorry to be long winded...lol...I blame the red indo! :p Have a great night, and enjoy your weekend everyone!
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Forgot to add...I didn't have the shipping delays this time like the first order from PDO, which was in no way Jeff's fault. I ordered the morning of the 17th, and it came today. Ordered from SoCal same time, and it'll be here tomorrow. :):):) No need to pay extra for priority.
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First week- what I've learned 1 year 4 months ago #11845

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I have tried the White Horn from PDO. I received it as sample. It was one of the best white strains I have burned.

I am not sure what is the longest green or red I have tried. I usually burn reds about 1 to 2 hrs before bed and I am able to sleep through out the night.

I think you will enjoy the strains from Socal.
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First week- what I've learned 1 year 4 months ago #11848

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Hey SteveO 10 - 12 grams is really not that much per day. I was using 3 times that much per day several years ago. Usually I use around 18 - 20 grams a day. Since I have been using Kratom for 7 years it doesn't last as long as it used to for me. It lasts around 3 hours for me. When you are new to Kratom the Strains will lasts longer like 4 - 5 hours with Green Malay being the Longest which can last up to 8 hours some say for a newbie.

I know just what you mean SteveO about staying in motion when using Kratom. When using Kratom if I get up to do something then I usually will do something extra than if I was not taking Kratom because of the Motivation that Kratom give me.

Usually for me Green Malay from Bikhuk The Source last the longest for me & Super Premium Indo from bestcapsules.zoeysite.com/kratom/super-premium. The Yellow Strains that I've found to be the Best for me are the Yellow Horn & Yellow Malay or Super Yellow. Crushed Leaves are really used only to make a Tea out of them & Powder is the best way of ingesting Kratom.

I think Powder is the most potent but that's just my opinion. If you just swallow the crushed leaves you would not get the full effects of Kratom & it would take longer for the effects to come on. The crushed leaves never really worked for me when I would just swallow them down. I'm glad you're enjoying Kratom. Kratom is something else huh. Nothing else like it on Earth. Does NOT get you high. Gives you an All-Natural Relaxing Energetic Well-Being Feeling.

This is how Kratom Works:
If you are feeling BAD Kratom will make you feel OK.
If you are feeling OK Kratom will make you feel GOOD.
If you are feeling GOOD Kratom will make you feel Great.
That's how I see it anyways.
If anybody has any Questions about Kratom please private message me & I will be glad to answer as soon as I can.
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First week- what I've learned 1 year 4 months ago #11849

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The longest lasting yellow I've tried is Yellow Sehari from Divineshaman.ca. Green senang is a strong one too. Red horn Thai is strong and pretty long lasting also. Divineshaman has like 35 varieties to choose from, the ones I've tried have been very good.
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