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S&V need info 1 year 4 months ago #12676

Could someone let me know their experiences with S&V and how they use it and if it works for them? Do you just take it in place of your kratom doses for a couple days for similar effects to give your receptors a break? That is how i understood it but i am not sure i am right.

Is there a stem and vein vendor anyone would recommend? I intend to take breaks every week now that i am not as desperate for relief, I am not sure what to expect from the S&V as i have read it does have effects but surely it does not give energy as well?? It would be great if it did lol And how many days would someone recommend a week to keep tolerance low for a long time? TY in advance :-bd
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S&V need info 1 year 4 months ago #12685

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I use two different S&Vs One from Ohio Botanical and one from HB&M. The OB S&V is a mix of all other their green strains. I do like this strain. To me it's like taking a green strain. I would say it's similar to a green borneo or a green indo. The HB&M is made from red bali and it's a good night time strain or when I want to relax. The only downfall with using this strain or any S&V at night is it doesn't last. When I take a plain leaf red, I can usually sleep throughout the night, but when I take just the S&V, I will start to get restless about 3-4 hours after going to bed. I do sometimes mix the HB&M S&V with half my normal dosage of a red strain and this works very well.

I usually only do 2-3 days of S&V and it seems to reset my tolerance. Most people recommend 5-7 days, but if your tolerance isn't too high, then 2-3 days should be sufficient. Adding S&V to your regular rotation will help. Just do 2-3 days of S&V every 2 weeks to prevent tolerance build up.

You will need about 25-40% more S&V compared to plain leaf.
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S&V need info 1 year 4 months ago #12687

Tyvm that is what i needed to know. i am going to try it sometime this next week or weekend :-bd
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S&V need info 1 year 3 months ago #12714

Does anyone sell white stem and vein?
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S&V need info 1 year 3 months ago #12726

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Haven't tried S&V from other vendors yet but I'm really enjoying the one from EntheoFarm. They call it "Haystack." Really nice mixed with other leaf or all by itself. I usually burn 2-3 g of plain leaf, so I tried roughly 4.5 g of Haystack this morning alone. (I measure in teaspoons, so it was 2 tsp total.) Very effective. Not sure if they still have it in stock, but I'm definitely going to order more in the future.

(Hope this kind of post is allowed. If not, my apologies!)
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S&V need info 1 year 3 months ago #12727

was it like a green or white or red strain? or is a completely dif feeling? i have already ordered some green S&V his week so i will try it when it gets here, i just was trying to find an energizing S&V for mornings for a little motivatiion while i take my kratom breaks. And thanx for the dose measurment Rhapsody, my dose is 3g. as well so that gives me a good idea where to start with the S&V. Does it actually help get your tolerance lower?
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S&V need info 1 year 3 months ago #12731

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For me, it's mostly like a green, just less intense, although they say the product is an accumulation of fiber from every leaf that goes through their mill.

As far as tolerance goes, I'm just now starting to test that out today. I've only used it in combo with plain leaf before now. Hope it works! :-)
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S&V need info 1 year 3 months ago #12733

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I have read positive reviews about Entheo' haystack. I myself seem to have more of a tolerance to reds. They do relax me when I burn 6 to 8 grams but I don't get that warm feeling.
I ordered more of bothe OB S&V and HB&Ms. This time I will try to do 3 to 4 days of S&V and avoid mixing plain leaf reds with my HB&M S&V.
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S&V need info 1 year 3 months ago #12761

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I would Recommend Shaman Nation & MMMSpeciosa Stem & Vein. S & V is usually about 30 - 40% less potent than Plain Leaf & is mostly Sedating. It is good when mixed with Plain Leaf. It will add Depth to the Effects. It won't be potent but it will be different because of the different Alkaloid Profile. I Usually mix 50/50 with Plain Leaf for best results.
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S&V need info 1 year 3 months ago #12769

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It seems my tolerance for red veins has increased so I started to doing an S&V run. Today I did mixed 3 grams of Ohio Botanicals S&V with 2 grams of The Therapy Store's Green Elephant. I will do another S&V and plain leaf mix tomorrow and then for a couple of days I will do only S&V.
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