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TOPIC: Tolerance, dose, etc.

Tolerance, dose, etc. 3 weeks 1 day ago #28586

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So I'm reading about tolerance and starting doses as a newbie. Since I got sick on my 3 g of super green kali, would it be advisable to restart that at a very lose dose and work my way up? Would 3 g be tolerable after I slowly work up or would I always get sick at 3g?
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Tolerance, dose, etc. 3 weeks 1 day ago #28599

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Depends on WHY you got sick. If it was the kratom, definitely don’t repeat the same thing.

However, 3 grams is not anywhere near a “getting sick” dose EXCEPT since you are new, could be you are super sensitive to it. Use it to your advantage by cutting it in half and wait 45 mins and see how you feel? That leaves wiggle room to ADD MORE without hitting 3 grams.

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Tolerance, dose, etc. 3 weeks 23 hours ago #28611

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It's not bad Kratom I don't think. My husband is new to it but tolerates it fine though he hasn't tried this particular strain. He hasn't been past 4g though. I think I am just sensitive and it was a Super type Kratom. I felt a little queasy with the Green Malay at 2.5 g. I am wondering once we get sick, if we can inch back up and then not get sick at that original "high" dose. I'm guessing "yes."
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Tolerance, dose, etc. 3 weeks 21 hours ago #28619

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You just got too much of the alkaloids. You did use a "super" strain which has a higher alkaloid content.

take a regular strain at 2 Gms you should be fine if it is a red.

Not quite sure why you decided on three Gms as a starting dose... BUT did you measure it by weight or volume?
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Tolerance, dose, etc. 3 weeks 21 hours ago #28622

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plantsower wrote: So I'm reading about tolerance and starting doses as a newbie. Since I got sick on my 3 g of super green kali, would it be advisable to restart that at a very lose dose and work my way up? Would 3 g be tolerable after I slowly work up or would I always get sick at 3g?


Was the 3 grams of Kali your first try?
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Tolerance, dose, etc. 3 weeks 21 hours ago #28624

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Look, no reason to be focused on a certain number, start with 1 or even .500 and work you way up to three if you need to. You'll find your way.
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Tolerance, dose, etc. 3 weeks 20 hours ago #28628

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Right, too much alkaloids. But being new to this I didn't consider the word "super". I just saw that it was green and Green Malay is gentle energy and pain relief. So I assumed, wrongly, that all greens were about the same so I took the same dose I would have taken with green malay which was 3 g. I learned my lesson. I didn't have a red at the time and am awaiting some now. But in my newbie mind, red means relaxation and sleep. I need energy during the day so didn't want to slow myself down with a red. This is quite a learning curve. I started green malay again at a very small 1g dose yesterday. Today I took 1.5 g. Didn't feel anything. Tomorrow perhaps 2 g. I have to leave the house for while tomorrow and don't want any surprises. I'm a bit afraid of whites, but when I do try one it will be at 1g to start. Down the line I will mix t hem as you guys do to get the best of both worlds. My main goals are energy and pain relief. Mostly energy unless I'm having a bad back day.

And yes, I weigh everything on my little gram scale.
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Tolerance, dose, etc. 3 weeks 20 hours ago #28629

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Was the 3 grams of Kali your first try?[/quote]

No, I had been titrating up on Green Malay. I had gotten to 2.5 g and was ready for 3g. So, I just assumed 3g of the Super Green Kali would be okay. I didn't know the super would be so strong. I know it says "super" but I never know exactly what the names mean.
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Tolerance, dose, etc. 3 weeks 20 hours ago #28630

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seven100 wrote: Look, no reason to be focused on a certain number, start with 1 or even .500 and work you way up to three if you need to. You'll find your way.


Right. From now on I will try any new strain or vein at a very low dose of .5 to 1g unless it's a white. I will probably start that at .5g only. Thanks for the encouragement.;);)
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plantsower wrote: Was the 3 grams of Kali your first try?


No, I had been titrating up on Green Malay. I had gotten to 2.5 g and was ready for 3g. So, I just assumed 3g of the Super Green Kali would be okay. I didn't know the <strong>super</strong> would be so strong. I know it says "super" but I never know exactly what the names mean.[/quote]
I'm curious as to why you are trying to titrate up? Are you using Kratom for pain management and trying to find your sweet spot, or is it something else.
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