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What do you do for sleep? 2 months 2 weeks ago #33672

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I take kratom for pain so I know I must not be the only one here. I often wake up early in the morning because of pain, so I have trouble sleeping. Taking it before bed is difficult as it is more stimulating for me, and when I wake up in pain it works well for the pain, but makes it difficult to go back to sleep.

Do any of you have any other methods of helping you sleep through the pain?

I find that it work great for my pain but it also is a bit short acting, but luckily my pain is mostly in the morning and is less in the afternoon/evening.
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What do you do for sleep? 2 months 2 weeks ago #33675

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Welcome to the Forum curiouskratter. Happy to have you here. First off, What Strain are you taking? Is it a Red, Green, Yellow or White. I would suggest only taking a Red or Yellow at night because usually these 2 are the most relaxing & sedating strains. Inland Botanicals has 2 different blends called Yellow Brick Road & Counting Sheep & they are really sedating strains. Strains for Pain & Sleep are Red Bali, Red Borneo, Red Sumatra, Red Bentuangie & Red Indo.
If anybody has any Questions about Kratom please private message me or make a Post & I will be glad to answer as soon as I can usually within 24 hours if not sooner. I'm usually on really late at night Between Midnight & 5am.
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What do you do for sleep? 2 months 2 weeks ago #33680

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Thanks, you replied to my other thread but the problem is my choice is just fresh leaves from one strain, I'll look around and see if I can find anything else, but I don't have high hopes.
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What do you do for sleep? 2 months 2 weeks ago #33684

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Welcome to the best kratom forum, curiouscratter!

I have the same issues with pain/sleep and ANY kratom is too stimulating for me also.

I recommend you use kratom only during daytime.

There are many of us who get stimulated brains even from “counting sheep” blends.

Other herbs I’m trying are incarvillea sinensis 30:1 or 20:1 and peony 30:1
There are others to try.

No sense using your stash up and increasing tolerance trying to sleep, in my opinion.

I’ve tried excessive quantity sized doses for sleep and it kept me awake all night.

Some of us cannot enjoy kratom for sleep - period.
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What do you do for sleep? 2 months 2 weeks ago #33693

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incarvillea sinensis I can back up that it has relaxing qualities. I take it for pain management as an in between from my kratom dose schedule. It could be an option. Of the vendors listed here I am only aware that KratomEye carries it. Very little information on it its a Chinese herbal flower. I am working on my doses, Most Red bentuangies(royal, chocolate) are sedating for me duration would have many factors. My pain is related mostly to inflammation I noticed at the beginning of taking Kratom after a month my morning pain has improvement tremendously no matter when I take my last dose as long as I am consistently dosing and gaining anti inflammatory benefits.
I also take about 2 grams of turmeric twice a day. Been managing spinal arthritis for just over a year now with herbal remedies.

Some ideas for you

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What do you do for sleep? 2 months 2 weeks ago #33694

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I’m just saying even chocolate or red bentuangies do NOT encourage sleep in the few of us who simply cannot use kratom for nighttime rest.

I’m being pushy about this because I’ve tried SO many vendors’ versions and stumbled upon 2 bags in 3 yrs that brought sedating qualities.

With the exception of taking too much at one time and requiring spontaneous napping.

Those bags I stumbled upon are long forgotten batches and haven’t found any since that help with rest. I’ll be posting again if/when I stumble upon such batches again.

Some people do NOT get sedating benefits from kratom. I’ve corresponded with “the others”. It’s just ANOTHER example of how we cannot generalize how SOMEONE ELSE will benefit from a strain I happen to love.
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What do you do for sleep? 2 months 2 weeks ago #33695

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True Laurie

I am thinking about the question here and its kind of an access issue to even try something different.

I would recommend herbs for night sleep. If available.

Higher doses usually gets sedating so suggesting higher dosing for fresh leaves would not know how to measure that.

When I can't sleep at all I go to hot tea. Something about hot liquids will lure me into a sleep. I throw random herbs into my tea. Waking up to pee is another story.
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What do you do for sleep? 2 months 2 weeks ago #33696

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Yeah, Nan70, that’s why I thought you might agree and elaborate on the incarvillea. I’ve misplaced mine while trying peony 30:1 for supposed muscle relaxing and sleep. I’m not sure it helps, but I know it won’t hurt. ANY KIND of ANY DOSE of kratom wakes up my brain and there are others that do not get sedation benefits from kratom. So I hate to hear of someone wasting good product and losing good z’s trying to MAKE IT WORK. For those it helps, they find out quite easily. For those it doesn’t help, we lose much needed rest TRYING to make it work. I’ve wasted 4 teaspoons of red bent or choc bent trying to rest. I just get WIDE AWAKE and a tolerance increase the next day, to boot!
Other herbs are where it’s at for those of us it doesn’t work on FOR SLEEP.
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What do you do for sleep? 2 months 2 weeks ago #33697

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Myself from dosing throughout the day kratom has been the best with my insomnia. hasn't cured it.
what happens is i no longer have problems falling asleep.
I will go into a very deep sleep but wake up 2 to 3 hrs later thinking it was a lot longer.
I just get up and usually have to pee and then go back to sleep for a few more hrs and the same happens.
At least I'm getting deep sleep and dont have trouble in the middle of the night going back to sleep.

i havent tried to take a dose to get me to sleep yet.
i have taken doses or mixes that i needed to take a nap.
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What do you do for sleep? 2 months 3 weeks ago #33699

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This is interesting, I will look into seeing if I can get some of these herbs here.

I think at high doses it may feel more sedating, but it's still not great for sleep for me.
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