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TOPIC: More deaths being attributed to kratom use... garbage

More deaths being attributed to kratom use... garbage 7 months 3 weeks ago #34343

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These claims are ridiculous and misleading
www.summitdaily.com/news/kratom-its-lega...grand-county-deaths/

In one of the cases Bock said two substances were found in the system of the deceased man, inhalants and kratom, and that both substances were found at levels that would be fatally toxic. In the other death, multiple drugs were found in the person’s system and, while the kratom levels were not considered to be toxic, its presence was considered to be a contributing factor to death.

“In both cases the caretakers for these people truly believed it was an herbal supplement and they were using it to kick their opioid habit,” Bock told Sky-Hi News. “In both cases they had gotten it over the internet and it was delivered to their homes.”
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More deaths being attributed to kratom use... garbage 7 months 3 weeks ago #34355

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That first misleading statement is laughable. Enough to be “lethal”? Kratom? Hello!

Thanks for sharing that misinformation! Pass it around so people can reply to the paper about putting lies in their “journalism research” or the coroner needs an education and likely has no possible idea what kratom is EXCEPT ITS LETHAL?

Inhalants kill people EVERY DAY! You’re lucky to only get brain damage from killing brain cells.
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More deaths being attributed to kratom use... garbage 7 months 3 weeks ago #34356

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Makes me sick seeing this story pop up on my phones news feed.
"Kratom: It's legal, unregulated and has contributed to 2 Grand County deaths"
85% or more of non kratom users will not read the misleading article and just
run with the title.
The writer from the paper obv. did this. Basically click bait.
And they always say kratom has caused all these deaths until you actually read it and it says the person had pain pills, meth, alcohol and kratom in their system.

you mind as well say they had a Big Mac in their system to and the red meat killed the person.

then the article quotes a person from there that used it to get off opiates.

Truly aggravating.
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More deaths being attributed to kratom use... garbage 5 months 1 week ago #36923

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Back in the news feed again. This time the CDC supposidely is saying 100 deaths (haven't seen the actual statement yet, just authors synopsis). This same story has popped up in the news feed half a dozen times in the last week from different sources, this one from CNN is the first one I've seen with any comment from a researcher trying to put the findings In question or context amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/04/12/health/kratom...cdc-study/index.html

The rest are click bait, most don't even mention the other chemicals found in the people's systems. They also make no mentions of underlying medical or psycological conditions or circumstances involved in the deaths. This one doesn't do much better but there is at least an attempt.

It says if you need help with pain management you should contact a medical professional to come up with a treatment plan ... Hah. How's that working out for the rest of you ? I at least used to have an honest intelligent Dr. Who essentially tried a few different options for me while explaining that the side effects for most treatment options are generally worse than the issue you are trying to treat. He finally said, " there's only so much I can do with a prescription pad","If you don't want opioids, try some alternative medicines/treatments, unfortunately I can't really suggest anything that hasn't been studied and approved".

Anyway, thought I'd chime in since I keep seeing this pop up in the news feed.... Again.
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More deaths being attributed to kratom use... garbage 5 months 1 week ago #36925

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Yes, many concerns among those who KNOW kratom users.

Even 100 deaths in 2,000 years is NOT MANY. People do DIE eventually. The articles are very convincing for loved ones and it’s an absolute crying shame that journalistic ethics of research and verification are completely lost in the Internet age.

Nobody lives FOREVER. People drop dead every day. That is not always the fault of the TEA they drank that morning, for crissakes. Pardon my french
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More deaths being attributed to kratom use... garbage 5 months 1 week ago #36950

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they keep coming up with fake numbers and conclude more research for kratom is needed. like you said people die all the time from different things.
Prescription drugs which are approved by the FDA after clinical trials and research have major side effects, cause severe health issue, unwanted side effects..,which you get put on more drugs for.., and some carry black box warnings telling you the approved prescription drug that a dr. prescribes you can kill you.
but that is OK because big pharma and wall street investors are making billions from it.

but kratom a natural plant they treat like the black plague. without valid evidence that kratom has killed even 1 person.

***" nearly 800 people — not counting those who died by suicide — who have died in the Grand Canyon."

I guess the Grand Canyon needs more research and should be labeled a schedule 1 drug because it has no medicinal purposes.
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More deaths being attributed to kratom use... garbage 5 months 6 days ago #36984

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And another one: www.foxnews.com/opinion/dr-nicole-saphie...duct-to-our-kids.amp

Love how these stories start out misleading.... Her "kid" is "college aged" so... An adult ... Who apparently doesn't have a phone or know how to Google something.

Fortunately Dr mom has a googler machine and did some deep research.... (I think she read the same poorly written articles that I did) then decided to shoot off her pie hole backed by her degree and a sense of self righteous indignation that someone is making decisions about their own wellbeing without her approval. Here's an idea Dr Michelle, go treat your cancer patients, and stop injecting your poorly informed opinion in this conversation.
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More deaths being attributed to kratom use... garbage 5 months 6 days ago #36986

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Fake News
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It's not news, it's an opinion. It's probably not fake, it's definitely poorly informed. Like many things in this life, it may even be well intentioned but, it's not helpful
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More deaths being attributed to kratom use... garbage 5 months 6 days ago #36989

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its not news. it is misinformation and disinformation.
they "cherry pick" statistics and write them to discredit and destroy the right of people in the U.S. to buy a natural safe product which has proven medicinal uses and safes lives.
its a technique called "yellow journalism" used to product the interests of big pharma, their investors, and politicians that are in their pockets.

it really is criminal to try to outright lie to people and take away their freedom to choose what they put into their own bodies.
a safe plant that has been used for centuries or highly addictive and destructive prescription meds that you can only get from a dr. and buy from big pharma.

And with so much of this being common practice with so many media outlets and social media the majority of people only read sensationalized headlines and believe them. no questions asked or research done on their part. even though they no the government and media lies to them everyday..,day in day out.

it is very sad that this country could be great but it boils down to the 1% of the wealthiest dictating everything. And they have no morals or conscious. They can careless if Americans suffer and die. As long as they continue to make billions....how much money do these people really need?


In case you never heard of "yellow journalism" it dates back to the 1900's:
"Yellow journalism are American terms for journalism and associated newspapers that present little or no legitimate well-researched news while instead using eye-catching headlines for increased sales. Techniques may include exaggerations of news events, scandal-mongering, or sensationalism."

Sound like a familiar tactic of the media, FDA, DEA, and government on all levels regarding kratom?!!
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