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More deaths being attributed to kratom use... garbage 7 months 6 days ago #36996

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Agreed. I was referring to that particular opinion piece as possibly being a well intentioned warning from a Dr. I don't think it's a unaware (her words) cancer Drs place to chime in but, she has a right to talk like the rest of us.

I do agree that there are most likely unscrupulous vendors out there trying to make a buck with no regard for their customers safety and well being. Places like this are probably the first line of defense and warning about those azzhatz.

I agree it's all about money for those who truly pull the strings. Unfortunately the "real media" is now forced to try to compete for advertising dollars with clickbait sites just to keep their doors open. Add to that a white house that calls anything they don't like "fake news" and you create a toxic environment for actual reporting. When a good portion of the country just ignores reality because it's more convenient to their narrative, I'm not really sure what to do ...
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More deaths being attributed to kratom use... garbage 7 months 6 days ago #37000

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I agree with you ETC. And it makes me angry and i start to have arguments in my head about all of the injustices and wrongs in life. I stopped reading news and watching the news..,just skim through google news feed during morning coffee..,because i would find myself yelling at the TV over such obv. B.S.

My mind can start racing about many different things..,part of anxiety i guess.

but thankfully i ve found that when that negative chatter in my head starts i take a dose of kratom.

And kratom for me is better than any benzo. It calms my mind down and i start having positive thoughts.

And yes i agree with you on vendors, head shops, gas stations that sell shady kratom products. Getting kratom that is adulterated with unknown substances and high power extract shots are not safe for the public.
i make a point that whenever i talk to any about kratom i stress that i purchased kratom powder from approved and safe vendors.
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More deaths being attributed to kratom use... garbage 7 months 6 days ago #37001

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Same here. Got caught up in that nonsense for years. It took awhile but I finally stopped watching anything but the cleanest sources of news I could find, where they actually just tell you what is happening, not their opinion of it. Not that it all isn't influenced in one way or another but, the alternative is being completely ignorant of what's going on. I have the problem of wanting things to be as fair as possible, not a Utopia but, not a relatively small percentage just reaming the rest of us because their dna didn't include empathy.

It's difficult not going full misanthrope :) , but there are enough decent people around me to not fully give up on the human race.
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More deaths being attributed to kratom use... garbage 7 months 6 days ago #37005

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Actually have a t shirt with misanthropic written on it. Not that my believes are that extreme anymore. More of a conversation starter.
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More deaths being attributed to kratom use... garbage 7 months 6 days ago #37012

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I also had to ditch the news to avoid anxiety attacks and restarting my PTSD! Being slightly uninformed is a huge cost for sanity. Really sucks, but finding the TRUTH is a huge amount of endless work!

I’ve learned to keep my pie hole shut because I don’t know as much anymore. But I’m not on a psych ward in a straight jacket!
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More deaths being attributed to kratom use... garbage 7 months 6 days ago #37013

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Oh I get it, the daily news is a horror show.

There's an inherent irony in misanthropy, most people don't hate people, they hate the ugly side of human nature. The vast majority of which is absolutely unnecessary and usually fueled by greed and ignorance.

I'm going off topic and down a rabbit hole here so I think I'll sign off now.

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More deaths being attributed to kratom use... garbage 7 months 5 days ago #37018

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Big Pharma is scared to death about Kratom as it is cutting into their profit margins. Big Pharma has the FDA completely on its side and will fight tooth and nail to get this wonderful plant powder banned or made a schedule 1 drug. It's all about control and money. :angry:
Keep Kratom legal.
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More deaths being attributed to kratom use... garbage 7 months 5 days ago #37019

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Absolute power corrupts absolutely.... somthing like that!

Those that are wanting to ban somthing that is as amazing as Kratom speaks loudly about what a threat this herb is to big pharma and their FDA minions, why else make such a big stink over a benign plant that is Kratom!? It works , is safe but cuts into potential profit margins ... shame on them and the news puppets..:. The only thing that worries me is how a good amount of folks in this country take news and fda/ pharma as a source of truth and dont scratch the surface to find that it stinks and is filled with lies ...

And welcome Bigfist, nice to have another good one on board , thx for your posts thus far
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More deaths being attributed to kratom use... garbage 7 months 5 days ago #37027

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Let's not forget that the heads of these government depts are appointed and approved by the elected adminstration (White House and Congress). I've personally never seen such an egregious group of corporate interest sockpuppets installed in these positions.
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More deaths being attributed to kratom use... garbage 7 months 5 days ago #37047

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This a must read reporter Nick Wing filed a freedom of information act with the FDA.

FOIA docs show FDA’s data on kratom deaths is complete propaganda

nexusnewsfeed.com/article/human-rights/f...-07sFQ3BODS0-unE4F9k

some tidbits from the article

, “Here’s another, from the wife of a man who died of a seizure. Medical examiner amended cause of death to “Toxic Effects of Mitragynine,” even though the husband had a history of seizures and was taking Dilantin (anticonvulsant) to treat them.”

To show just how ridiculous some of these claims are, we can look at a recent case out of Washington state. John Harden tragically lost his wife last month and reported her cause of death as kratom use. However, after further investigation—by the Thurston County Coroner—kratom was not found in his wife Wendy’s system at the time of her death.

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