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Importance of dosing 11 months 4 weeks ago #12926

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I'm new to kratom use. I had a bad experience with my first order of kratom; I only took 2 grams at any one time and it gave me nothing but headaches and nausea, while being totally hydrated. I just started my second order from another vendor and the same thing happened when I began with 2 grams.

I took 2 grams of green kali and felt fine for 45 minutes and then felt an edgy headache coming on, which went away after about 2 hours. I stayed hydrated the whole time so that was not an issue.
I then took 2 more grams after 2 hours and had a good experience with no headaches. Wondering if maybe the cummulative dose helped in not giving me a headache.

My question is: Do some people experience discomfort, edginess or headaches, with the lower dose and no problem at all with a higher dose? I've never taken 4 grams at once, and wonder if anyone has heard of anyone who suffered with a low dose and was fine with a higher dose?

Thanks.....
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Importance of dosing 11 months 4 weeks ago #12928

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Hey oldman, sorry you had a bad experience with kratom. That is perhaps the only down side to kratom, you have to go through the trail phase to find out what works for you. Along the way you will likely find vendors and strains you won't care for. I can't say I have tried taking a larger dose after experiencing headaches. I have had a few strains give me a headache but usually just throw them out. There have only been a couple so far though. Most have pleasant outcomes but still all provide different results. I'm curious who the vendor was and which strains you tried? It's ok if you don't wish to share though. If the 4grams gives you the experience you're after then I don't see any issue continuing it. You may try switching to a white or red strain. Not all reds are sedating in nature. I can't say I've ever tried a green kali before.
Best of luck to you, you will find one that suits your needs
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Importance of dosing 11 months 4 weeks ago #12934

Nice to meet you Oldman :-h

I have had that problem before as well and like msolis said, i just throw them out :( But i do not know the cause, But i do order small orders of each strain first then the ones i like i buy larger amounts so if i have to toss one it is not very costly, and i will always try each one at least twice. I also have better experiences with Kratom if i split the dose into two doses. Like for a 4g. dose, I will take 2g. then thirty min later i take the other 2g. and i find the effects to come on a little slower and less intense but they last longer for me this way.
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Importance of dosing 11 months 4 weeks ago #12935

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I went for what I thought was value and purchased a kilo from Buy-Kratom.US and had maeng da, yellow viet nam, white borneo and I forget the other. From what you have said about this being the toughest part, that is, trying out and experimenting to see what works for me, this actually gives me some hope to continue.
Yesterday, after the headache came on I was ready to chuck the whole thing and try something else, but actually I woke up this morning with a calm feeling as if the kratom yesterday had carried over with some positive effects.
So, I will continue experimenting with 4 gms and see what develops. It could even be that the first batch was not bad, but that I didn't manage it wisely.....
I very much appreciate your help.

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Importance of dosing 11 months 4 weeks ago #12938

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Hey Oldman glad to have you on the Forum. Buy-Kratom.US is a very good Vendor. They have awesome prices with quality. You made a good choice to buy from them. Just keep trying different Strains until you find the ones that work best for you. If a strain gives you any negative side effects at 4 grams then I would chuck it like msolis said. Don't give up Oldman. There are plenty of different Strains, Vendors & Combo's out there. You will find what works best for you. Good Luck!
If anybody has any Questions about Kratom please private message me & I will be glad to answer as soon as I can.
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Importance of dosing 11 months 4 weeks ago #12940

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I really appreciate your response.

In fairness to Buy-Kratom.US, they were very professional when I let them know my problem and they gave me a full refund.....I had only used maybe 3 grams per day for 5 days, but just couldn't go on with it....at one time the Yellow Viet Nam was horrible and in two days it was fine. Their White Maeng Da and White Borneo were good at first and then made me ill, so I don't know if I should have not taken it everyday, but I need help with depression and anxiety at times, and wanted to try to get a feel for if the kratom would help my situation. I thought a slow introduction of a new substance like kratom to my body would work, but only time will tell what didn't work about it. Perhaps I will order from them again and try another grouping of strains.

You're right, one just has to find one's way to see what works and not give up. As a classical singer, I was imagining me taking kratom and then feeling edgy and uncomfortable in front of an audience, and the two just didn't seem to be possible. Perhaps I should have tried every other day, or upped the dosage to see how that would affect me but I just paniced I guess.

I am on day two of a smaller purchase from CarpoBotanicals. Joshua, the owner, seems honest in his assessment of his Vendor and made me feel comfortable, as they apparently have good quality control. If anyone has experience with him I would appreciate any info.

I tried the Green Kali yesterday at 2 grams and felt fine for 45 minutes and then felt the beginning of a headache...head did not hurt but it was like I had a heightened physical awareness of my brain....hard to describe; I had a similar feeling in my head when I tried SAMe, the supplement for depression...it is highly regarded in Europe for helping with depression. I had the same sensation so am wondering if there is something in common with SAMe and kratom.....I added 2 grams of Maeng Da at that point and had a leveled out feeling that was good.

Don't know if this is proper here, but if you have a Vendor you use that you trust, would you mind sharing it?

Thanks again for your help.
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Importance of dosing 11 months 4 weeks ago #12941

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Hey Levonne,

If you wouldn't mind sharing your Vendor it would be great....if not, it's ok...

I really appreciate any info as I'm building a base of knowledge that will help me find the right strain or strains and dosaage....I guess everyone goes through the same initiation when they start.

Thanks again.
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Importance of dosing 11 months 3 weeks ago #12942

Authentic kratom was the vendor who's strains didn't sit well with me. Green bali was one of them and Red Maeng Da. I ordered it when I first tried kratom and I was trying to figure out my dose. The experiences with those strains were enough I didn't take very much of it before I decided i didn't like their kratom. But where I was new and didn't know Which doses or what feelings to expect I could have been taking to much. I may try them again later on. The experience could have been me not being very knowledgeable.

Pharmacy drop outs green bali gave me very unpleasant effects as well but I did figure out I was taking too much and lowered my dose and found I really enjoyed it.

If u were asking which vendors I like my favorites are herbal salvation, socal, C.O.B and pharmacy drop out so far . Socal is the cheapest priced for the quality, the others are higher but a little better quality I think. But I like all 4 :-bd
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Last Edit: 11 months 3 weeks ago by levonne90@gmail.com.
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Importance of dosing 11 months 3 weeks ago #12943

When I first started taking kratom I didn't always have pleasant experiences but I always found relief from my wds that I was using it for. I was not sure I was gonna like it honestly, but after playing with my dose and strains I liked I started really having much better experiences and have decided I really like kratom :-bd

I started a thread on here of my favorite vendors and strains so far if u would like to know more of my fav. Strains. It is under new to kratom I think.
Be not afraid of growing slowly, Be afraid only of standing still.
Last Edit: 11 months 3 weeks ago by levonne90@gmail.com. Reason: spelling
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Importance of dosing 11 months 3 weeks ago #12944

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Thanks very much for the info. I will check out your post.

All the best.
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