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TOPIC: What is the difference between crushed leaf and plain leaf?

What is the difference between crushed leaf and plain leaf? 1 year 1 month ago #28302

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Crushed leaf is something I just found today, and I'm curious about it. Any input?
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I've not used it, but there are many ways I've ready about. Tea, being most obvious. I know some vendors receive leaf and sift and filter it in-house. Have you gotten some as a sample? It's a common freebie product.
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No, I don't have any. I was just curious.
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Laurie and seven100,
I am still curious about stem and vein.
BarnicleBill wrote that he had received a sample from COB. I contacted COB to learn that they did not carry it/were out of it.
I have presently located a source.
Are there advantages to S&V?
How do you dose it?
Any info is appreciated.
Thanks,
T
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What is the difference between crushed leaf and plain leaf? 1 year 1 month ago #28371

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Yeah, it’s lighter and fluffier. I suspect there are advantages to shipping it in raw, dried form as opposed to sifting and filtering it in Indonesia, or other areas. Especially since vendors are getting more actively involved in the conditions of how the plant is processed for safety HERE.
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What is the difference between crushed leaf and plain leaf? 1 year 1 month ago #28374

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Oh and Tees,

I like stem n vein. I don’t understand it all that well. Did you see the video I posted from Kat’s Botanicals on this topic earlier this week or maybe last week? He does a short explanation of it. I still don’t know how it gets separated from the leaf (or why, really). The alkaloids are completely different and they KICKSTART my powder. I use the same TOTAL DOSE size as a blend with S & V. Sometimes it can make worthless (or so I thought from prior tries) powder I have lying in the back of a shelf work REALLY WELL. I’ve never NOT HAD IT in my rotation.

But.

Dear sweet Joe from APPROVED VENDOR Re-Leaf LLC wrote a LONG explanation about how it’s probably a placebo effect. Do a search, it’s a MUST READ. He thinks I’m nuts, and I often agree.

Let me know if SEARCH under the topic doesn’t help. I’m too lazy to do it like BoMalley does. She’s more considerate that way, bless her heart.

How was your pain today?
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As for finding some, I can’t reveal my source. Wish I could.

It runs around $12-15 for an ounce as opposed to powder.

And! I don’t use stem n vein daily. I take long breaks because it really helps powder maintain its power after sitting in a bag for months. Then I save the S & V for when I feel tolerance making a jump up. It helps ME get tolerance going DOWN.

There’s also a product called agmatine you can get from most supplement places on Amazon.
I used it for a few months, but it gave me the munchies. LOL

I had pretty good results from Precious Mitre. Theirs was a blend ALREADY including the regular powder. It’s pretty good. Madmaxnightrider recommended them for budget conscious shoppers.

COB’s is better - when he has it. I would ask around (email vendors). Some don’t bother to list it on their sites. PDO has product not listed at times.

Joe at Re-Leaf LLC probably has some AND agmatine for the same prices as the budget conscious alternatives.

I might ask EZ KRATOM, and KRATOMEYE.
Also Mood & Mind (not approved on ILK) also carries more obscure selections at times.

Oh and I think Kat’s Botanical (not ILK approved) has some! Duh! I’m pretty sure he does. But. He has a wish list system and I have a few items tagged.

Oh, and Greenleaf Kratom (not ILK approved) has a HUGE selection. I haven’t used them in a good 2 years, but I liked their stuff.

I don’t know if In Sense/Gold Leaf Botanical has it, but you can email him. He might have it - but his websites are under construction - best to ask.
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Hopefully I actually answered your ONE QUESTION, with those LONG posts. Cool you found a source! I missed that fact when I typed all that long winded stuff. Let me know if you want more info.

Night (morning :-o)
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What is the difference between crushed leaf and plain leaf? 1 year 1 month ago #28384

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Hey Laurie -
Thank you for the very thorough comment.
You did, in fact, answer my questions!
Best,
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EVENTUALLY! Good!
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