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Are Kratom withdrawals a big deal or similar to coffee? 6 months 1 week ago #36953

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Hello everyone. I’ve read some stuff on different forums about Kratom withdrawals and I don’t know if I can believe what I read on Reddit so I figured I’d ask you guys. Has anyone gone through withdrawals when quitting Kratom and if so, what was it like?
I’ve taken Kratom for about 7 months now and it’s really helping with pain, anxiety and overall mood. I took a one week break from Kratom after the first 3 months and I had diarrhea that didn’t really go away till I took Kratom again.
I take one teaspoon of Kratom 2 times a day (sometimes 3 times a day if my back pain really acts up). I’ve never upped my dosage in the 7 months I’ve taken it, but I’m worried that I am taking to much.
Any honest reply with your experience on the topic would be great.
Oh yeah, I notice that if I go more then 12 hours without a dose my stools get a little lose. Lol, sorry if this is totally TMI! It just seems like Kratom is slowing down my digestion.
Does anyone else get the trots if you miss a Kratom does?
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Are Kratom withdrawals a big deal or similar to coffee? 6 months 1 week ago #36959

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I also get diarrhea if I don’t use kratom for 24 hrs.

Partly because I have adopted magnesium supplementing and forgot to cut back on it
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I noticed other minor discomforts and returned to kratom use. I found cravings for unhealthy substances (SUGAR) returned with discontinuation of kratom. I have decided I’d rather ingest plant material than sugar!

I think everyone is different with the depth of psychological addiction in addition to minor discomfort (nothing to miss work over!).

Have you noticed any other symptoms?

Thanks for throwing this question out on your introductory post!
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Are Kratom withdrawals a big deal or similar to coffee? 6 months 1 week ago #36966

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The other symptoms I get when I stop are restlessness legs and anxiety. But it’s hard to say that it’s from Kratom because I had that stuff before I started taking it. It’s almost like when I don’t take Kratom I realize all the ways that it’s helping me. But I can’t help but worry if it’s safe for long time use. Is it safe to use for 5 + years? This is why I’m so happy that studies are finally being done on it.
The reason I choose to take it now is because I was talking prescription meds for anxiety and pain, but now I’m not. It just feels better to be able to take control over your own health in a natural way.
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Are Kratom withdrawals a big deal or similar to coffee? 6 months 1 week ago #36972

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Cici,

You’re right. Not enough studies have been done - YET.

Google Dr Mercola to see SOME of his research findings.

I agree with you that it’s a natural product of choice. But we all know “natural” isn’t always better.

The only symptoms I have had is cravings for unhealthy foods, depression and the trots. No restless legs or anything. But. I stepped down to stem n vein before going without kratom altogether and I can tell it relieved some symptoms. Or rather skipped a few symptoms of discontinued kratom use.

I tried a synthetic antidepressant and after one week, my health had gone haywire and the dr said to ditch the medication. I still had symptoms of withdrawal from THAT drug well over 6 weeks AFTER ingestion.

That spoke VOLUMES to me about which is the better choice.
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Are Kratom withdrawals a big deal or similar to coffee? 6 months 1 week ago #36980

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I got the "trots" :ohmy: yesterday when I didn't take any kratom because I wanted to test chuchuhuasi as a pain killer for my wife. I took 2gm in grapefruit juice at 9am. Then worked at cleaning carpets until 11am. I could tell there was some pain reduction but no where near what kratom gives me. I took another 2gm and finished the cleaning by 12:30pm. I then had a salad from Zaxby's. My back was in a lot of pain so at 1:30pm I took 3.2gm of red kx in grapefruit juice. About 30 minutes after that I started having the trots until about 9pm. I was cleaned out enough for a colonoscopy by that time.:S
I don't know what caused this. The not taking kratom all morning, the first time taking chuchuhuasi, a bad salad from Zaxby's, or maybe to high a dose of the Red Kx? (Which did take away the back pain):-bd
As a side note the chuchuhuasi smelled and tasted like fresh cut sawdust. Does that sound normal for this herb?
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Are Kratom withdrawals a big deal or similar to coffee? 6 months 1 week ago #36982

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As a side note the chuchuhuasi smelled and tasted like fresh cut sawdust. Does that sound normal for this herb?

Yes its tree bark. I have dosed just under 2 grams but I feel 2.5 grams might be better for me. I took almost 2 grams and found pain relief it is not Kratom but for a pulled muscle that happened as I was moving my clothes from my closet chuchhusasi was the right amount of pain relief. Lol maybe I might label it closet cleaning OK, carpet cleaning not as good.

I only get a runny nose when I do not take kratom. I usually do no take kratom on weekends at all. I do not wake up wanting it either. I have less pain when I am not at work so I take other botanicals or nothing. Sometimes I just function with certain amount of pain level(which I can't do at work)in that case I need to be able to get off my feet and stretch on the floor and complain to whoever is near me.
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Are Kratom withdrawals a big deal or similar to coffee? 6 months 1 week ago #36983

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The amount of kratom that you are taking on a daily basis is average or probably below average. 6-7.5gpd is conservative.

Your question is a very controversial one. On Reddit the two major forums are r/kratom where everone loves kratom. The other r/quittingkratom is diametrically opposed. They talk about kratom as if its the devil's own drug.

The truth is probably in the middle. Most people just like Alcohol can moderate their Kratom Usage. But some just can't. It depends on the person. My personal experience with Kratom is that it's very easy to taper and quit.

I can't figure out how a person could become accustomed to large doses of Kratom and expect to quit Cold Turkey without experiencing discomfort. It just doesn't make sense. But some do.

One thing that I think about is that most people have a reason for taking it. They have a baseline mental state. For example, he was depressed when he began taking Kratom. A year down the line he decided to quit kratom. By that time he's forgotten his original baseline. So he posts on r/quitting kratom He's been so depressed since he quit kratom when will it end. The answer is never because all he did was revert to base.

Around 1 1/2 years ago I was around 18gpd and I quit really easily. For a week I cut my use in 1/2 every other day until I reached 2-3gpd. Stayed on this dose for a month. Quit on a Wed fine on Thu and Fri. Sat my body began aching and I took 2 advil. Pain went away and I was fine after that. Easier than quitting coffee.
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Are Kratom withdrawals a big deal or similar to coffee? 6 months 4 days ago #37134

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The other symptoms I get when I stop are restlessness legs and anxiety.


Along with fatigue this has been my experience as well.

The nice thing is that if you WANT to come off Kratom you can control it yourself.

Every 3 days reduce the dose slightly.

Then when you feel ready, spread out the time between doses until one daily dose is eliminated altogether.

Over time you can get it down to a very low dose, maybe once or twice per day and then stop it.

BUT YOU CONTROL THIS PROCESS! Nobody else is telling you what you must do.
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Are Kratom withdrawals a big deal or similar to coffee? 6 months 4 days ago #37138

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Indeed, BoMalley’s point about control is a huge difference from quitting addicting substances. Kratom is not so much addicting as it is a dependence issue. Mostly psychological but also physical.

The beauty is you will NOT BE INCLINED TO FAIL by the constant “urge” to use in the same way addicting substances like alcohol or opiates are enticing the ENTIRE TIME you are not ingesting.

Changing your THINKING while taking your TIME reducing use is very comforting for stopping kratom use. I also incorporate stem n vein as a tool during that phase of reduction and it helps.

I plan to acquire some alternative species of kratom soon to try using them as a tool in the process as well. Hirsuta and Javanica (I think) are close relatives of the kratom plant and I will post about my adventures using them as quitting tools as soon as I’m started.
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