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Are there vendors out there that know about the alkaloids AND some pharmacology? 5 months 4 days ago #27917

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Yup, bottom line is trial and error like everyone else.

You’re right about the insomnia issue with MOST STRAINS. There are some that will help YOU sleep, whereas I might not! It is THAT unique to YOU.

Good questions! Love the one about euphoria as well. Also subjective.

Since you’re trying reds, you’re on the right bread crumb trail. For sedation, I found Precious Mitre red vein stem n vein BLEND. That bag was my sleeping pill bag for a while. It didn’t do much else, so I didn’t reorder. I don’t even WANT to waste alkaloids on my body while I’m sleeping. That just keeps tolerance high while I’m not even getting the benefit of more movement in my body. But that worked great for instant sleep! I prefer melatonin for sleep, and a hit or two of weed on occasion for nighttime pain.

Maybe you can use it for daytime only also?
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Are there vendors out there that know about the alkaloids AND some pharmacology? 5 months 4 days ago #27922

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Nice reply, Laurie.
I don't +waste+ my kratom for sleep unless I am in pain.
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Are there vendors out there that know about the alkaloids AND some pharmacology? 5 months 4 days ago #27923

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I think this was answered .
Go on my website and check it out.
Alkaloid content .
Www.christophersorganicbotanicals.com
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We always provide top quality organic kratom at reasonable prices.
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Are there vendors out there that know about the alkaloids AND some pharmacology? 5 months 4 days ago #27924

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" don’t even WANT to waste alkaloids on my body while I’m sleeping. That just keeps tolerance high while I’m not even getting the benefit of more movement in my body."
You know Laurie, that is a really great point. But just like pain pills, I wouldnt be using the kratom to sleep unless I was also having pain. It's just that, like w/ the pain pills, I didnt want to get insomnia too as a side effect, like I do with the pain meds. So I was just looking for any guidance I could get in that area.
So far none of the 20 different ones I tried have given more more insomnia LOL but I dont burn close to bedtime
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Are there vendors out there that know about the alkaloids AND some pharmacology? 5 months 4 days ago #27926

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I use red Vietnam for night time.
That's all it does is help me sleep.
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We always provide top quality organic kratom at reasonable prices.
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Are there vendors out there that know about the alkaloids AND some pharmacology? 5 months 4 days ago #27939

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I DO use kratom at night.

I have learned that if I get up and cannot get back to sleep the ONLY thing that will help me return to sleep is to treat pain. If I take something to help me sleep it NEVER works. BUT if I take something to treat pain it ALWAYS works!

I have just concluded that it is the pain the wakes me up...I am in pain almost all the time anyway so who knows how my body is reacting to pain when I am asleep? In fact....pain theory shows us that many people GO TO SLEEP to escape pain.

Just because a person is sleeping does not mean they are NOT in pain.
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Are there vendors out there that know about the alkaloids AND some pharmacology? 5 months 4 days ago #27945

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Very good point, BoMalley. My particular types of pain are not a nuisance when my body is at rest (for the night). So that’s why I don’t treat pain at night - don’t have it.

I do sympathize, missred, I could triple your tries easy. That’s why I went with valerian, kava, weed, melatonin, etc at night.

I did not mean to imply that NOBODY has pain at night - that would be quite absurd and self centered - just I don’t. And I do take advantage of that time to back off on kratom for 13-15 hrs a day.

It does make dosing more of a mystery for fun in the dark and cold without coffee in the mornings.
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Are there vendors out there that know about the alkaloids AND some pharmacology? 5 months 4 days ago #27961

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Hey missred,

There is another thread here that might be of interest to you:
www.ilovekratom.com/forum/frequently-ask...-relief#.WvkMdhZlDYU

The girls are talking about homeopathic stuff - they know what they’re talking about - it seems to be VERY DIFFERENT from kratom, pain pills, etc.

Those girls are as good as having a nurse online 24/7.

It’s just a thought, IF you haven’t already tried it. Their instruction is KEY if you are interested...
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Are there vendors out there that know about the alkaloids AND some pharmacology? 5 months 3 days ago #27973

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I hear ya, bomalley. 24/7 is the kind I have. And Laurie, I have tried all kinds of sleepy-time remedies that didnt work for me. I did find that ashwaganda REALLY amps me up, for some reason LOL and a lot of sleep remedies feel they have to include it.
This whole strain and dosing thing is so mysterious and frustrating, then throw in the vendors and the time of year of the crop and the bulk vendors ...sooo many variables! I guess we have to be a pretty desperate bunch to go thru all this LOL But it is worth it, I can see that. I had a nice few hours with no pain and no side effects and it was glorious.
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Are there vendors out there that know about the alkaloids AND some pharmacology? 5 months 2 days ago #27984

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Aren’t those days remarkable when it works?

I try very hard not to do a week’s worth of chores while I’m able. Sometimes it’s more important to stay pain free, so vacuuming is iffy on the list for today.

Trust me. Don’t do a million things. I’m in MORE PAIN today from having not taken my own advice - yesterday. Ouchie
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