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Laughing Lion -- Not Recommended 1 month 5 days ago #32610

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I do not recommend Laughing Lion. I recently ordered two sampler packs (1 oz. packs of ten types....whites, reds & blends). I get absolutely no effects from any of them, even after increasing my regular dose by 2 grams. The following statement on their website may explain this. Wish I had seen it the first time:

"7-hydroxymitragynine is an alkaloid that is found in Kratom but in almost imperceptible trace amounts. This is a good thing because the compound is identified as a component that is known to have the potential for abuse and addiction. Kratom in its natural leaf form can cause one can become dependent, similar to dependence on a daily cup or more of coffee.

OUR KRATOM HAS NO DETECTED 7-hydroxymitragynine We test every batch of Kratom that we sell and not one test has ever shown a positive result for the 7-hydroxymitragynine.
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Laughing Lion -- Not Recommended 1 month 5 days ago #32611

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I’m quite surprised by your lack of response to our products. We have well over 5000 customers who swear that our product is better than anything else on the market.

I wanted to first say that we offer 100% moneyback guarantee so if you would like to reach out to us by email or phone we would be more than happy to refund your entire purchase or try to find strange that will work for you. We do in fact have farmed Kratom available now as well for the small percentage of people who prefer that leaf to wild harvested.
I wanted to first say that we offer 100% moneyback guarantee so if you would like to reach out to us by email or phone we would be more than happy to refund your entire purchase or try to find strains that will work for you. We do in fact have farmed Kratom available now as well for the small percentage of people who prefer that leaf too wild harvested.

The statement on our website is true of all naturally grown Kratom. The level of the 7-ohm And natural crowd him that has not been concentrated is in perceptibly present and only detectable by extremely precise expensive equipmen in natural Kratom that has not been concentrated is in perceptibly presents and only detectable by extremely sensitive tests.

The presence of the alkaloid in any higher amount that is naturally present represents an adulterated product that the Kratom support community has stated is not safe and wise they tell consumers to not purchase extracted Kratom.

A lot of people don’t realize this and I was under the mistaken belief that the 7-ohm alkaloid was the reason for the kratom being so good when in fact it’s not. Yes it’s present in all kratom but at such small levels that it doesn’t tend to show up in most tests unless they are super sensitive. Like hundredths of a percent. Test any kratom and as long as it’s not concentrated this will be true. (From my understanding anyway and if there is proof that I’m wrong I’m happy to hear it because I am Only basing this on what I’ve seen and read in my research)

So anyway, a long winded reply to explain that 1. I will refund your money or exchange it for something you will probably like better and 2. The reason why we write about the 7-ohm alkaloids :-)
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Laughing Lion -- Not Recommended 1 month 5 days ago #32615

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Like playing ping pong in DingDang, who knew ?? Interesting... I wonder if that’s why some strains/ vendors don’t effect me noticeably??

I respect laughinglions guarantee to refund or find something that suits you... that’s an honest vendor , kudos to you LL...

My question , because I can’t read your posts in their entirety, always cut off to a degree,, is why that’s a promoted thing, and if that only holds true to distinct regions farmed or due to farming practices/ strains?

Again, thx for your honestly and willingness to reconcile a unhappy customer

But I must say ... mirtagynine is of great/!huge importance , as long as that % is up to par I’d think that it would still be therapeutic to a degree, I suppose depending on what your using Kratom for,

I use for pain management, 7- hydroxymitragynine is a important component to my needs, but I haven’t a clus as to the concentration of that alkaloid in my stash ..
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Laughing Lion -- Not Recommended 1 month 5 days ago #32619

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I have tried the Electic Buzz mix of white strains and found it potent kratom-
LL post for those using smart phone-

I’m quite surprised by your lack of response to our products. We have well over 5000 customers who swear that our product is better than anything else on the market.

I wanted to first say that we offer 100% moneyback guarantee so if you would like to reach out to us by email or phone we would be more than happy to refund your entire purchase or try to find strange that will work for you. We do in fact have farmed Kratom available now as well for the small percentage of people who prefer that leaf to wild harvested.
I wanted to first say that we offer 100% moneyback guarantee so if you would like to reach out to us by email or phone we would be more than happy to refund your entire purchase or try to find strains that will work for you. We do in fact have farmed Kratom available now as well for the small percentage of people who prefer that leaf too wild harvested.

The statement on our website is true of all naturally grown Kratom. The level of the 7-ohm And natural crowd him that has not been concentrated is in perceptibly present and only detectable by extremely precise expensive equipmen in natural Kratom that has not been concentrated is in perceptibly presents and only detectable by extremely sensitive tests.

The presence of the alkaloid in any higher amount that is naturally present represents an adulterated product that the Kratom support community has stated is not safe and wise they tell consumers to not purchase extracted Kratom.

A lot of people don’t realize this and I was under the mistaken belief that the 7-ohm alkaloid was the reason for the kratom being so good when in fact it’s not. Yes it’s present in all kratom but at such small levels that it doesn’t tend to show up in most tests unless they are super sensitive. Like hundredths of a percent. Test any kratom and as long as it’s not concentrated this will be true. (From my understanding anyway and if there is proof that I’m wrong I’m happy to hear it because I am Only basing this on what I’ve seen and read in my research)

So anyway, a long winded reply to explain that 1. I will refund your money or exchange it for something you will probably like better and 2. The reason why we write about the 7-ohm alkaloids :-)
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Laughing Lion -- Not Recommended 1 month 4 days ago #32631

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Laughing Lion, Thanks for your response. I appreciate it. I'll contact you.
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Laughing Lion -- Not Recommended 1 month 4 days ago #32632

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Thanks Nan70 for the full post as seen in the email version. That format issue is on the “punch list” of things reported to staff. Thanks to Matt for not having time to complain about it yet ;-)

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Laughing Lion -- Not Recommended 1 month 4 days ago #32634

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A question for Laughing Lion - what is your reason for having that information on your website? I'm just curious.

I think it's great that you're trying to educate people about Kratom, and I'm glad I read your post here about it because I learned something I didn't know.

Having said that, I can't help but wonder if having that blurb that Donut posted on your website might do more harm than good. Possibly a case of "Too Much Information."

Read by itself, I find it a little confusing. (As I believe Donut did, too.) Reading your post here about it, I understand what you mean/meant.

I'd hate for you to be deterring customers from buying LL due to a misunderstanding of that statement.
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Laughing Lion -- Not Recommended 1 month 4 days ago #32638

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Word, maybe it’s just a full disclosure that they don’t have the extra sensitive equipment to test for 7-hydroxy and /or that it’s just naturally in such low quantities that it’s hard to detect..?? But unless it’s just a batch that doesn’t have noticeable alkaloids or it’s a personal response to that particular strain...

I haven’t ordered from them but they seem like a nice business and good people too...
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Laughing Lion -- Not Recommended 3 weeks 5 days ago #32882

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Donut wrote: I do not recommend Laughing Lion. I recently ordered two sampler packs (1 oz. packs of ten types....whites, reds & blends). I get absolutely no effects from any of them, even after increasing my regular dose by 2 grams. The following statement on their website may explain this. Wish I had seen it the first time:

"<em>7-hydroxymitragynine is an alkaloid that is found in Kratom but in almost imperceptible trace amounts. This is a good thing because the compound is identified as a component that is known to have the potential for abuse and addiction. Kratom in its natural leaf form can cause one can become dependent, similar to dependence on a daily cup or more of coffee.
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OUR KRATOM HAS NO DETECTED 7-hydroxymitragynine We test every batch of Kratom that we sell and not one test has ever shown a positive result for the 7-hydroxymitragynine.</em></strong>"

I'm sorry for my noobish comment but isn't this the compound that you get stimulation from? Is it the lack of this compound that has anything to do with effects?
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Laughing Lion -- Not Recommended 3 weeks 4 days ago #32885

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Thefrogshateme wrote: I'm sorry for my noobish comment but isn't this the compound that you get stimulation from? Is it the lack of this compound that has anything to do with effects?


If you read this entire thread, including Laughing Lion's response, I think things will make more sense.
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