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TOPIC: Opiate withdrawal and kratom thoughts

Opiate withdrawal and kratom thoughts 1 year 1 month ago #31484

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An issue when dealing with substances such as Kratom is that the person taking the substance is at the mercy of the people who produce it at the farm and however many other hands touch it before it's sold and finally ingested. There are no guidelines no checks and balances.


Which is why the AKA is working to establish launch of the AKA GMP Standards Program.
www.americankratom.org/gmp-registration
Some vendors already practice these standards.

Will it address your concerns about safety of the product and the appropriate checks and balances are made. I do not know.

I buy other botanicals I tend to shop only from vendors that are also botanical suppliers, I have to depend they source from reputable sources. I take incarvillea sinensis, a commonly used Chinese medicinal plant but so little information on dosing and side effects. I am on my own basically. Its very helpful for my arthritis.

I have not had an adverse reaction to Red Borneo. I found it relaxing and pain relieving.

I only had one adverse experience for a sample strain called Red Dragon. I had awful headaches and generally felt unwell. I threw it away I will not buy from this vendor.
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Opiate withdrawal and kratom thoughts 1 year 1 month ago #31487

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This is exactly why this plant needs to be studied. Everyones body chemistry is different , what makes person A feel great might kill person B, assuming of course what they took was pure unadulterated product.
I'm quite sure that if some pharmaceutical manufacturer somewhere realizes the potentiality of Kratom studies will get done, regulations and guidelines will be set forth. Until then, we are , as stated , at the mercy of the hands that Kratom goes through to get to us as well at the mercy of having to self medicate through trial and error. A scary thought to be sure.
It's really something that plants have been put on this earth that can help humans yet billions of dollars are spent and made on synthetic drugs.
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Opiate withdrawal and kratom thoughts 1 year 1 month ago #31489

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you are right on all counts.

While there is lots of research on mitragynine, what we do not have is research on "best practice" ie how much, how often, for what conditions etc.. This is mostly because it is not legal for human consumption in many jurisdictions.

What we do have is our own experiences, however, there are many, many factors that affect individual responses and we do not know what those are. Surely previous opiate experience is one important factor since opiate users tend to need higher doses.

I suspect gastrointestinal health is another factor...those with sensitive intestines can also have difficult experiences.

As far as my own experience I did suffer nausea, itching and headaches at the start. BUT with improved hydration and continued use that all went away.

As I searched for my personal "dose" and responses to various strains, I also had some episodes with my head in the toilet bowl, but in the end it all worked out well for me.

Having a safe supply is now my main concern, and so I stick with vendors that I trust and have had good experience with.
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Opiate withdrawal and kratom thoughts 1 year 1 week ago #32329

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This is by no means medical advice , this is merely my experience with Kratom. I have Crohns/ulcerative colitis and a few issues i have related are spasming colon, diarrhea and a fistula which apparently is common with this disease. There is also considerable pain associated with the disease and the fistula, my assumption is that mother nature puts the fistula in place just in case the pain from the actual disease is not sufficient. Well, Mother nature , for future reference the pain from the disease is really quite sufficient.
But i digress, the point i'm labouring to make is that the Kratom takes care of every issue i have related to the disease. It slows the motility which helps with the discomfort and the fistula. It also takes the pain away.
Now, I've never used it whilst the disease is full blown but for my disease maintenance it works great. The advice i am comfortable giving is this, for those people considering using Kratom , research the hell out of it. There is only anecdotal information at this point and there are some very scary stories out there relating to people who've used Kratom. So do all the research ans make an informed choice.
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