09 Mar 2020
We want to welcome everyone to the New I Love Kratom Forum. We're constantly trying to improve the forum for our members. Please take the time to show our approved vendors some love. Check out our approved advertisers as well and feel free to post about your experience. If this is your first time to the site, make sure to register and do your first post in the "Introduce Yourself" section. Also, make sure do check out the "Approved Vendors" section of the forum to find great daily and weekly deals.

We would like to send out a special thanks to all of our advertisers and approved vendors. Be sure to check out their sites and try them out.

UPDATE: Gold Leaf Botanicals is doing a special 10% off and I had posted it incorrectly. That coupon should is now changed to ILKforum15%.

We would like to throw a big thanks out to all the vendors on this forum for being so awesome and a very very special thanks to our Moderators.

~ I Love Kratom Forum Staff
Read More...
We realize that there are hundreds of amazing health and wellness topics. This is the section to talk about them.
  • Page:
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3

TOPIC: Cats claw

Cats claw 6 months 3 weeks ago #45345

  • Somethingsacredgoinonhere
  • Topic Author
  • Visitor
Hey Michele!! Thx for sharing your experience with CC.... I’ve been reading on a different forum and one person says she take it an hour after her last kratom dose.. before bed and it helps her doses for the first part of the next day better/stronger .. maybe something to the timing of taking Cc plays an important part in to its effects with kratom?? Super curious I must admit !!

Much love Michele :x (L) >:D

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Last edit: by Somethingsacredgoinonhere.

Cats claw 6 months 3 weeks ago #45342

  • Babel-17
  • Babel-17's Avatar
  • Away
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Posts: 701
  • Karma: 16
  • Thank you received: 2100
Ha, somebody seems to have lifted some of Dr. Atkins book and posted it on the internet, though it scattershot fashion.

As I own the book, this just saves me from the tedious job of typing it out.

Many people, including me, harbour a fanciful yet plausible belief that nature has indeed created a botanical cure-all buried in the depths of some rain forest and still untouched by civilization. One day, perhaps, we will discover this mythical plant. Until then we have cat’s claw, touted by many as the closest thing yet to an herbal panacea.

Harvested in the Peruvian rain forest, cat’s claw is one of my most widely prescribed herbs. South American herbalists have dispensed it for centuries, and I use it to treat many of the same ailments: digestive problems, ulcers, arthritis and inflammatory ailments. Since the 1970s European researchers have been establishing a sound scientific foundation for these applications and others. The herb can lower blood pressure and cholesterol and, as animal studies suggest, may help to deter blood from clotting. It also contains a number of compounds that, among other effects, may enhance the immune system and inhibit cancer.

Not all varieties of cat’s claw offer the same therapeutic benefit. The Uncarta tomentosa type possesses the most health- promoting qualities. A similar variety, Uttcaria guianesis, is helpful but lacks tomentosa’s most medically important compound, called isopterodine. Brewed teas and diluted extracts, known as tinctures, are probably the best ways to absorb the active ingredients in cat’s claw, although capsules seem to work just as well if they contain a standardized extract. Avoid supplements of ground cat’s claw bark. The bark is indigestible and, therefore, probably of no benefit.

I have found an unacceptably wide variety of potencies between one distributor’s products and another. This makes dosage recommendations difficult. For instance, the cat’s claw I prescribe for my patients is effective in three to six capsules of 500 mg each. An experienced herbal practitioner should be able to advise you.


www.menshealthpro.org/herbscats-claw.html

www.menshealthpro.org/natural-health/page/11

I see isopterodine listed as an alkaloid in Kratom.

worldmedassist.com/white-vein-kratom/
The following user(s) said Thank You: Laurie, Tiggermanscrat, michele373

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Last edit: by Babel-17.

Cats claw 6 months 3 weeks ago #45341

  • Babel-17
  • Babel-17's Avatar
  • Away
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Posts: 701
  • Karma: 16
  • Thank you received: 2100
Michelle, by any chance did you use Bulk Supplement for the powder? Normally they are good but in the case of their Cat's Claw, they are disappointing, at least in so far as the variety that they use, Ranunculus Ternatus. Though one reviewer bought it because it was that. It's the naming that was wrong, imo.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranunculus#Pharmacological_activity

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncaria_tomentosa#Phytochemicals

And there's Uncaria guianensis, which is a lot like lot regular cat's claw, but it lacks isopterodine, which Dr. Atkins called Cat's Claw most medically important compound.

Starwest Botanicals uses the real stuff, but it's not an extract, it's the ground bark, which Dr. Atkins says to avoid as it's indigestible. Presumably it would be good for making a tea.

Question:
how do you make tea from this product?
Answer:
In Medical Medium Life-Changing Foods: Makes 4 cups Boil 4 cups of water. For each serving of tea, use 1 teaspoon of cat's claw per cup of hot water* Steep for 5 minutes or more Serve with lemon slices and raw honey, if desired
*If stronger, more medicinal tea is desired, use 2 teaspoons or up to 1 tablespoon of cat's claw per cup of hot water
He also says, "There's nothing like drinking a cup of this cat's claw tea as you watch the moon rise to activate your body's healing potential. It's an especially useful practice when you've done yoga or Pilates earlier in the day."

The following user(s) said Thank You: Laurie, Tiggermanscrat, michele373

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Cats claw 6 months 3 weeks ago #45338

  • michele373
  • michele373's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Posts: 1386
  • Karma: 30
  • Thank you received: 3953
hey brandon!

I personally did try cats claw. got a powdered extract and capped it myself. it did not help me a great deal personally. tried it daily for about 2 weeks. but that's just me. I have had a great deal of benefit from a boswellia complex I have been taking. but that's just me. been in the same spot.. just gotta keep trying to see what 'sticks' and works for you!
The following user(s) said Thank You: Laurie, Tiggermanscrat, Babel-17

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Cats claw 6 months 3 weeks ago #45332

  • Somethingsacredgoinonhere
  • Topic Author
  • Visitor
Saw that one as well... I thought it was cool to have that person reference kratom in the review .... Two herbs I want to get : cats claw extract and Rhodiola extract .... 2 power house herbs .... both are sounding very beneficial to add into the the regimen!! B-)

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Cats claw 6 months 3 weeks ago #45330

  • Babel-17
  • Babel-17's Avatar
  • Away
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Posts: 701
  • Karma: 16
  • Thank you received: 2100
Huh, outside of a mention I read in a review of Agmatine, this is the only other review I've read that references Kratom. It's at the link I posted.

J. McDaniel
5.0 out of 5 stars
Resets kratom tolerance
October 5, 2019
Verified Purchase
I heard from a botanical group that this herb at night would lower my tolerance for kratom in the morning, so I decided to try it. And it works! I'm totally full of energy again and pain free when I take my doses of green kratom, and no longer having to mix in the red vein kind to try to bump up its pain relieving properties.

I can't really say anything about this relieving pain... ? Because I take it at night. It doesn't affect my sleep in any way. And it's supposed to boost immunity - something I can use since I have a weak immune system anyway - but I can't really comment on that yet because I haven't been taking it long enough to know if it's causing me to get sick less.

The following user(s) said Thank You: Laurie, Somethingsacredgoinonhere, Tiggermanscrat, michele373

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Cats claw 6 months 3 weeks ago #45329

  • Somethingsacredgoinonhere
  • Topic Author
  • Visitor
Babel !!! I was looking at the same item in amazing before posting .. pretty great deal ... I think I’m gonna grab a bottle too.... Thx for commenting about Cats claw ... sounds like a good thing ... can’t go to wrong go with 8$ either ... I’ll take that gamble lol!! Thx brother

Laurie- thank you .... I still have some hirsuta to try from Benni ... I keep reading great things about the hirsuta .. time for me to take some and fine out !!!

Sweet dreams >:D (L)

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Last edit: by Somethingsacredgoinonhere.

Cats claw 6 months 3 weeks ago #45328

  • Laurie
  • Laurie's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Have a better day!
  • Posts: 6101
  • Karma: 92
  • Thank you received: 8702
I recall an unfinished discussion with Madmax about cat’s claw perhaps being mostly the same thing as Hirsuta. Hirsuta is closely related to our Mitragyna and is mostly mitraphylline alkaloids. Apparently Cat’s Claw is those same mitraphyyline alkaloids and I don’t know what else/if that’s even true. I was thinking of using ONE supplement OR THE OTHER and not taking BOTH. Hmmm. I don’t recall where I read that or if it’s just a myth.

What did you tell me about this, Madmax? I think you knew a lot on this topic!
Laurie
The following user(s) said Thank You: Somethingsacredgoinonhere, Tiggermanscrat, michele373, Babel-17

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Last edit: by Laurie.

Cats claw 6 months 3 weeks ago #45327

  • Babel-17
  • Babel-17's Avatar
  • Away
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Posts: 701
  • Karma: 16
  • Thank you received: 2100
As I take dozens of supplements, I'm reduced to taking them on faith as many of them overlap with their reputed benefits.

So I can't truly vouch for Cat's Claw.
The following user(s) said Thank You: Laurie, Tiggermanscrat, michele373

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Last edit: by Babel-17.

Cats claw 6 months 3 weeks ago #45326

  • Babel-17
  • Babel-17's Avatar
  • Away
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Posts: 701
  • Karma: 16
  • Thank you received: 2100
I take a lot of supplements, and that's one of them. :)

NOW Supplements, Cat's Claw Extract, 10:1 Concentrate, (1.5% Standardized Extract), 120 Veg Capsules


$7.99 at Amazon, and I notice that they're showing me a coupon for $1.00 off.

Wow, I just now ordered more as last time I paid $13.49. I take slow delivery instead of two day Prime delivery and I get a $1.00 credit for digital purchases. I bought two e-books yesterday as most of my credits were expiring in a day.

Anyway, back to topic, I have Dr. Atkins guide to supplements (Dr. Atkins' Vita-Nutrient Solution) and he referred to Cat's Claw as touted by many as the closest thing yet to a universal panacea.
He used it as a treatment for digestive problems, ulcers, arthritis, and inflammatory ailments.

he cites that European researchers have used it for lowering blood pressure and cholesterol. Animal studies show it can deter blood from clotting. Some of its compounds may enhance the immune system and inhibit cancer.

You want Uncaria Tomentosa. avoid the bark as it won't be digested.

Let's see if I can post the link to Amazon.

smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013OXCJI
The following user(s) said Thank You: Laurie, Tiggermanscrat, michele373

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Last edit: by Babel-17.
  • Page:
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
Moderators: kemppaulhSomethingsacredgoinonhere
Time to create page: 0.222 seconds