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Trying to overcome “conviction” about the less is more theory 4 months 1 week ago #48735

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yes...chronic pain and acute pain are different animals.


I had two rounds of dental surgery in the past year and Kratom did NOTHING for my postoperative pain.

Because of my oxy use and then my kratom use for the last three years I have quite a tolerance for narcotics and nothing the oral surgeon gave me worked....it was horrible.

My advice to anyone using Kratom who is about to undergo an acute procedure, would be to make sure that your team knows that your are opioid tolerant and that you have some options and a trusted doctor who will prescribe what you need.

Because the oral surgeon could not prescribe triple scripts I had to go to my physician who knows me well and knows that I was on oxy and do not take it anymore. He prescribed some narcotics for a one week period to help with the postoperative pain. Thankfully I did not need them all. BUT I really suffered with under treated pain before I went to see him.

Had the oral surgeon told me he could not prescribe the narcotics I would have gone to my doc earlier to get the prescription in advance of the procedure, and saved myself a lot of suffering.

Acute pain will delay healing and can cause lots of problems. It is important to treat pain properly but acute pain treatment should be short lived. Definitely under 7 days should be enough (usually 3-4 days).
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Trying to overcome “conviction” about the less is more theory 4 months 1 week ago #48696

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You're right it would be dependent upon the level of pain I could tolerate.

I had gallbladder surgery in 2016, before I knew about kratom, and had no pain killers after the surgery.
I didn't take any because I was addicted to pain killers due to spine surgeries and had been sober for several years before the gallbladder surgery.
I didn't want to risk my sobriety on taking pain killers again.
I just hope that if I am forced into surgery again that the kratom would be enough. :-bd

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Trying to overcome “conviction” about the less is more theory 4 months 1 week ago #48694

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Be careful on post surgery pain, Don. Thats acute pain not chronic pain. A different beast.You dont have to use what they give you. But you have it if you need it.

Good to see you guys. Welcome Ripley. This is the most beautiful forum. People here are kind. Glad you made it through your bad stretch. Happy Day to every one!
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Trying to overcome “conviction” about the less is more theory 4 months 1 week ago #48692

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Ripley,
Thank you for sharing that story.
when I have another surgery I will be telling my doc that I don't need their pain meds. I'll be using kratom.:-bd
My Grandkids say I’m a cuckoo head. ;)

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Trying to overcome “conviction” about the less is more theory 4 months 1 week ago #48691

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Never stops amazing me how well Kratom works for pain, so well that I don’t even think twice about the thought of using any opiates where as for the past 20 years I would always welcome them in my life… Pretty neat way to find out about Kratom someone who is in a lot of pain but refusing to take morphine because of kratom !! Great daughter you have ... big high five ..!!..!!..

And it’s beyond cruel and inhumane to deprive folks who really need medication for pain because of others who have abused it and have addictions… I have empathy for those folks as well but it’s got to be one of the most lamest political actions made on our people ... it’s absurd !
Life is better with kratom !
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Trying to overcome “conviction” about the less is more theory 4 months 1 week ago #48690

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My story mimics yours to a T...11 years on morphine after a few serious accidents and a fractured spine..then came ' The Epidemic'...
( shout out to all the recreational users that caused the people that really needed meds to be forced to live in mind numbing pain) But that aside..
My daughter is a RN. She works with critically injured patients. One of her patients refused their pain medication saying they only use kratom. She looked into it and suggested I try it. The rest is history. Life changing in every way. 3 years now on very little pain medication which I only use it for very bad days.
I am so grateful to have found this miracle leaf. This is something worth fighting for. kratom saves lives, of that there can be no doubt..

I love this forum and have found more then a few great new vendors here.
Thanks ILK :)
Retired horse trainer/instructor/ gamer/goat farmer/ kratom enthusiast. If you can't say something nice, be subtle.
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Trying to overcome “conviction” about the less is more theory 6 months 5 days ago #46807

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Thank you Brandon. It is so uplifting to be in a happier lifestyle.And wonderful to have found you all. I am so surprised that k works so well.what a gift. A good start to the New Year.
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Trying to overcome “conviction” about the less is more theory 6 months 5 days ago #46804

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Kratom is very effective with pain reduction for me .. and slot of others ! I love this community... very special folks here...stoked to have you here and that you found a herb that works so good !!(L)

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Trying to overcome “conviction” about the less is more theory 6 months 5 days ago #46801

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Thank you everyone, great topic. Been out for a week or so on Holiday playground. Good to be back. I agree with everyone. If you can afford your dose, what diff does it make. If it hits even one opiate receptor site there is going to be tolerance issue. Take what works or why bother.I feel like it is a miracle to find this marvelous plant/tree. I have a broken body and multiple conditions.

Before the new narcotic practices, my orthopedic surgeon, over the years had me on a huge dose of narcotic pain meds. It mostly worked. I hit acertain dose and became stable. Stayed there for 11 years lost tolerance for some reason. Had lots of judgement from people and doctors who did not understand my problems. Not my medical team though. Enter the "opiate problem". No pharmacy would fill my prescriptions. Pharmacists were nasty and resorted to name calling.what a horror. The discrimination.

My doctor found a specialist to reduce me to 1/3 of my dose in a private facility under supervision. Been in horrible breakthrough pain ever since.been 2 years. Found kratom and was saved.can function again. Can smile again. Can leave the house again. Will take as much as I need to stay out of pain. To me nothing noble about living in pain. Love this forum .not been on any others. Looking forward to learning more about k and the botanicals. Thank you to all you fine people who are members here. Love you all.
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Trying to overcome “conviction” about the less is more theory 1 year 1 month ago #38653

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Pfiffle wrote: I remember now, I did change something. I STOPPED taking agmatine. And now the effects are back. Coincidence? Stopped tumeric too. Does that make sense?


Well hell , first time I took agmatine I felt like it did boost effects, but every time after I haven’t notice much of anything ... keeping in mind I take my reg dose combined with it, empty stomach and no food for an hr afterwards ..

I try it a few x a week, I find it very interesting that you now feel strong effects coinciding stopping I take of ag..& turmeric...

Far out , guess we all respond differently and perhaps what I experienced first time was a awesome placebo??

Since I hear it’s good for o es body anyways I’ll tske it on occasion, and if I get boosted results from kratom/ag combo... fine with me ..!if not .... no loss .... At least I hope no loss of kratom effects !!!


Thx for sharing

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