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Kratom and COVID 21 hours 28 minutes ago #49488

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kemppaulh wrote: This topic is a Red Flag for the FDA. Kratom does not contain Chloroquine, which is a prescription pharmaceutical. The AKA's lobbyist mentioned that the FDA is looking for kratom vendors, in particular, who are making claims like this. Claiming kratom contains Chloroquine or has the same activity will certainly put any vendors at risk.
Let's leave it at "We're collecting anecdotal info to see how kratom consumers get through this epidemic, then we'll turn the info over to some legit scientists to make sense of it, if they choose."


Brandon and Paul,
The ILK Home page is still showing the incorrect reference to Chloroquine being in kratom.

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Kratom and COVID 1 day 21 hours ago #49460

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kemppaulh wrote: Yes, we can talk about it, but -- to be safe -- we consumers need to just report if we stay well and free of COVID-19 infection or not. We also need to be careful not to talk in terms of kratom having medical benefits. I hate this loss of our First Amendment rights, but the FDA is paying teams of trolls to monitor and report instances of medical claims being made for kratom, according to MacHaddow, the AKA's lobbyist on their recent Webinar.

SAying that kratom gives us energy or helped us recover from opioid w/d or "eases pain" are all trigger words that the FDA will use against us in this fight. These things we may consider to be facts HAVEN'T BEEN PROVEN, BUT THAT PROOF IS ON THE WAY THANKS TO THE NIH AND NIDA GRANTS.

So, let's be careful what we say, we don't know if trolls are here, listening. No need to get paranoid, but let's not give them ammo to use against kratom. Thanks!


Hey Paul, :-h
I don't understand your statement "SAying that kratom gives us energy or helped us recover from opioid w/d or "eases pain" are all trigger words that the FDA will use against us in this fight."
How can they use our own experiences against us? I can see that being true for a vendor who is selling kratom but not for us as individuals.
Am I misunderstanding or are you saying we should not share our personal experiences on the forum?
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Kratom and COVID 1 day 22 hours ago #49458

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Yes, we can talk about it, but -- to be safe -- we consumers need to just report if we stay well and free of COVID-19 infection or not. We also need to be careful not to talk in terms of kratom having medical benefits. I hate this loss of our First Amendment rights, but the FDA is paying teams of trolls to monitor and report instances of medical claims being made for kratom, according to MacHaddow, the AKA's lobbyist on their recent Webinar.

SAying that kratom gives us energy or helped us recover from opioid w/d or "eases pain" are all trigger words that the FDA will use against us in this fight. These things we may consider to be facts HAVEN'T BEEN PROVEN, BUT THAT PROOF IS ON THE WAY THANKS TO THE NIH AND NIDA GRANTS.

So, let's be careful what we say, we don't know if trolls are here, listening. No need to get paranoid, but let's not give them ammo to use against kratom. Thanks!
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Kratom and COVID 1 day 22 hours ago #49457

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Hey Max,
I have thought about the bidet thing. But you still need something to dry off with. And what about in the winter when the water out of the tap is freezing. That will wake you up in the morning. lol
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Kratom and COVID 2 days 5 hours ago #49453

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Semper Fi brother! As far as getting it into the hospital I have a book bag filled with kratom and basically everything I would need to spend two weeks in the hospital. They aren’t ganna look through or search your bag, if anything repackage it and tell them it’s something else. That’s my plan anyways. Will I use it in the hospital, if I get there, I’m still really unsure about. I don’t think there’s a right answer here. Just our best guesses.
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I’m with you 100%. Do you think it would be easier to just keep it on this thread since we are already here?
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Kratom and COVID 2 days 12 hours ago #49450

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This topic is a Red Flag for the FDA. Kratom does not contain Chloroquine, which is a prescription pharmaceutical. The AKA's lobbyist mentioned that the FDA is looking for kratom vendors, in particular, who are making claims like this. Claiming kratom contains Chloroquine or has the same activity will certainly put any vendors at risk.
Let's leave it at "We're collecting anecdotal info to see how kratom consumers get through this epidemic, then we'll turn the info over to some legit scientists to make sense of it, if they choose."
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Kratom and COVID 2 days 13 hours ago #49445

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Just to clarify: kratom dosen't contain chloroquine, it contains compounds that may act in a similar fashion. The article that started people on saying it did was actually translated from Indonesian and just shared (went viral!) quickly across the web. Here is a link to a video explaining this clearly youtu.be/GjQ-KEwv05E

And in more details here
youtu.be/hIdI472Y8_s

And Dogsol, im willing to participate in your idea by sharing my anecdotal personal situation. I live in a city and volunteer at a place that makes me exposed quite a lot

And Don, if you don't find TP there is also the option of buying a bidet, the water spraying thing. Just 50$ and its more eco friendly. I don't have one but im convinced its the best, why? One day a guy told me: "lets say you're walking along and you trip over something, loose your footing and fall face first in a pile of shit. Now, would you rather wash your face with water or wipe it down with a paper towel?" Haha convincing right?!

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Kratom and COVID 2 days 15 hours ago #49438

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don- I think you had a really strange mom. lololololol But we cannot judge anyone's strategies that lived through world wars and the depression.

About COVID and Kratom- I didn't mention in my last post. My dosage is lower than some. And some days I only take it once a day. I probably should have regularly dosed when I was sick from the beginning.

Good night- I should sign out and get a shower in, prepare my night kratom dose. Love to Liz stay well you 2!
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Semper fi usmc2003,
Thank you for starting a thread that some of my favorite ILK family responded to.
Hey Nan, Laurie, and Brandon >:D >:D >:D

I'd like to think I would still take kratom while I had the virus. But then being the old fart that I am I just might be in the hospital and have no access to my ZAPs. :-? :woohoo:
My wife would have to sneak it in to me. :lol:

I swear that since I started taking kratom, 1 year ago on March 4 :-P , that I haven't been sick. My wife has actually commented that I haven't been sick. And my previously normal yearly allergies leading to sinus infections have not occurred since I started. There has to be something in this magical leaf that is helping me. =D>

Now for the serious stuff.
Were any of y'all shown the 3 square only method of TP usage. Growing up on welfare with 4 women in the house my mom was very strict on us only being allowed to use 3 squares of TP per s*itting. :ohmy:
This may be TMI but we were taught to break off exactly 3 squares and then align the 3 as 1 square in our hand. Then wipe and fold that square in half with only that hand. Then wipe again if needed and do the one handed fold in half again. Unless you had diarrhea you wer not allowed to take another 3 squares. Was ths the "normal" for anyone else or did I just have a really strange mom? :ohmy:

What did people do before TP?:-?
I probably don't want to know. :lol:

Well it's past my bedtime and my babes is waiting for me so I'm off to rest up for tomorrow's excursion into the cruel world of looking for TP.

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