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Kratom Only Works For Me With Caffeine 6 months 2 weeks ago #50522

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In the morning, I take 2 grams in conjunction with caffeine. If I don't take caffeine, In about an hour I get a mood lift from the Kratom. So they both work fine together for me. In the evening if I am lethargic and want to get up and do something around the house, I take two more grams of Kratom. That is enough to clear the fog, but doesn't give me the morning kick. It may be that you are so used to the two together you mistake the subtlety of the Kratom for it not working.

On days off, if I don't have much to do and I am tired, I just take the Kratom. I watch a little television and lay around and get rested. If I want to get up do laundry and clean, I add caffeine. Consider that you may need to add some vitamin supplements. As someone else mentioned, those energy shots do have quite a load of B vitamins.
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Kratom Only Works For Me With Caffeine 6 months 2 weeks ago #50505

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Have you tried using a stimulating White, or Yellow? There's more than caffeine in that drink, btw.

The official website lists the active ingredients of 5-hour Energy as: vitamin B6, folic acid, vitamin B12, sodium, taurine, glucuronolactone, malic acid and N-Acetyl L-tyrosine, L-phenylalanine, caffeine, and citicoline.

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Kratom Only Works For Me With Caffeine 6 months 2 weeks ago #50501

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Hey Rich,

I’m thinking that you’ve become solely accustomed to the combo , kratom and caffeine. I’ve read that caffeine acts as a potentiator for Kratom’s more energetic side of things ... but to not feel anything unless combined with caffeine.... it’s probably because that’s how you’ve always taken it . Without it , your body is saying wtf?? Do you rotate strains ? Or take the same variety more than not ?

I’d try taking a extra gm without caffeine and if your not already rotating, try that as well.

I take my first dose in the morning , alongside with my coffee I sip on throughout the day ...16oz of brew in total . But the other 2-3 doses , no coffee ...

If you don’t mind taking caffeine every time you dose , than you have it figured out, but if your not always wanting to have that pairing , allow your body to adjust , some time to acclimate without the caffeine .

2 gm isn’t very much , but possible you’ve grown a tolerance to that, then taking a wee break and or adding a little more might be something worth trying .

I look forward to other members thoughts/ ideas on this .

Stay well my friend , great to see you again!
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Kratom Only Works For Me With Caffeine 6 months 2 weeks ago #50499

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Lately when I take my usual 2G dose I get no effect UNLESS I take it with caffeine such as a 5 hour energy or something similar.
If I dose without caffeine I literally either feel nothing or slightly lethargic and lazy with no motivation. Sure, I understand caffeine
on its own is excellent for energy, everyone knows that. But why is my kratom dose basically useless now unless I take it
with caffeine? BTW I tried upping my dose to 3-4g and that only causes anxiety even without the caffeine. Once I did 4g with caffeine and I will
never do that again because I got dizzy and hand trembling.

It appears kratom is now useless to me without caffeine. Does anybody know why? Perhaps I need a long t-break. But again,
kratom still works great (with caffeine) so a t-break may not be needed yet.
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