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General discussion regarding the very popular topic of Kratom Extracts. Again, many members new and old would appreciate your input so feel free to start a topic with your Opinions, Questions, Preferences or Experiences.

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Kratom extradition. Need some tips 1 year 11 months ago #32524

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I used Alcohol, Lemon juice and white vinger after a single water base wash . A buddy told me after sampling that he had a perpetual grin on his face all day . That’s one s#..y grin . I said
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Kratom extraction. Need some tips 1 year 11 months ago #32152

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I was asked to come here and offer feedback, but I'm a few days late. I'm very sorry, I've been extremely pre-occupied the past couple years. Life is really busy these days. , without going over everything, it looks like things got replied to

This was a very good extraction. I would put emphasis on the low yield heat. Very low, around 125 or lower, def. no more than 145. Heat degrades one of the main alkaloids at around 145 F.

My advice: Listen to what the others say.

Really good Crystals man, I'm impressed.
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Kratom extradition. Need some tips 1 year 11 months ago #32139

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Thefrogshateme wrote: How would I do the 20x 30x 10x thing. If I started with 300 grams and got 55 grams of extract no waste



The kratom leaf has numerous other compounds aside from the desired alkaloids. These compounds are extracted along with the alkaloids in basic water/ethanol extractions. In order to improve the alkaloid concentration you would have to remove these compounds from the crude extract through additional processes. I am not very familiar with chemistry and I don’t feel comfortable handling ethyl acetate or chloroform. I found this link explaining the process

patents.google.com/patent/CN102048857B/en

The extract you have now is roughly 6x and I really don’t think the cost/risk of trying to concentrate it further is worth it. Refining kratom extract to a purified form seems much more complicated than anything I would want to attempt. Someone with a background in chemistry might see this as a relatively basic exercise but I don’t and it’s all Greek to me.
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Kratom extradition. Need some tips 2 years 2 hours ago #32112

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MitraMantra wrote: I ended up with chunky flakes similar to what you have in the round dish there. Crystals usually only form from a single substance under certain conditions, kratom has at least two other major alkaloids that could interfere with mitragynine crystallization. www.christophersorganicbotanicals.com/Kratom-alkaloids-s/115.htm
Not to mention other compounds that would or could prevent crystal formation. There are certain more complicated techs that talk of washing and separating the mitragynine by using stepped processes of washing with vinegar (I think) and somehow getting the mitragynine to precipitate out of solution but I’m not a chemist.
I think the dark black color is simply concentrated chlorophyll. The only way to be sure if your extract is good is to simply try some. Other than that it looks good to me congrats!


How would I do the 20x 30x 10x thing. If I started with 300 grams and got 55 grams of extract no waste
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Kratom extradition. Need some tips 2 years 3 hours ago #32111

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No I just need a extra peep in my step.
When I do take it it's not more the 2 grams a day. I stayed up for 48 hours making extract and I will never do that again. The process takes wayyy too long
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Kratom extradition. Need some tips 2 years 19 hours ago #32099

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It looks really good! I hope you have no pain to test it on! Because I care. Definitely looks like the right stuff. Make sure you don’t waste it by taking it at bedtime or something tempting like that.

EDIT: thanks for sharing this on the forum. Very cool
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Kratom extradition. Need some tips 2 years 19 hours ago #32097

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I ended up with chunky flakes similar to what you have in the round dish there. Crystals usually only form from a single substance under certain conditions, kratom has at least two other major alkaloids that could interfere with mitragynine crystallization. www.christophersorganicbotanicals.com/Kratom-alkaloids-s/115.htm
Not to mention other compounds that would or could prevent crystal formation. There are certain more complicated techs that talk of washing and separating the mitragynine by using stepped processes of washing with vinegar (I think) and somehow getting the mitragynine to precipitate out of solution but I’m not a chemist.
I think the dark black color is simply concentrated chlorophyll. The only way to be sure if your extract is good is to simply try some. Other than that it looks good to me congrats!
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Kratom extradition. Need some tips 2 years 20 hours ago #32095

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Enjoy but you better have LOTS of plain powder or stem n vein or both ON HAND. Just in CASE you have tolerance issues later.

I’m SO GLAD to hear you smiled. No joke. I know the feeling. I now have the dreaded permanent upside down frown wrinkles from e-smoking too long.

So I look unhappy UNLESS I’M SMILING. Don’t get old.
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Kratom extradition. Need some tips 2 years 23 hours ago #32088

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MitraMantra wrote: Hi Laurie thanks for the warm welcome:) you and Nan really help hold this place together, Makes it really feel like a community. I was going to respond before but my demanding little Bengal needed attention (she likes me to brush her while she runs on her cat wheel).

Oh and frogs I forgot to mention how good your extract looks, it has some nice color to it. I've been meaning to do separate comparisons of water vs. alcohol extract. Apparently the water extract is supposed to contain more of the mood lifting alkaloids while the alcohol extract is supposed to have more of the sedating ones. That nice brown colored powder from your first attempt has rekindled my interest.

Thank you so much. Can I use This?
I had three pans cooking and separated them in different bags. One is pitch black, it doesn't smell burnt and it has my crystals, the other two are blackish brown and they're all flaky. I had no resistance whatsoever getting it out and crumbling it up. Did I destroy my extract?

I remeber seeing black diamond extract everywhere and they're just selling burnt kratom lok
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Kratom extradition. Need some tips 2 years 1 day ago #32084

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Hi Laurie thanks for the warm welcome:) you and Nan really help hold this place together, Makes it really feel like a community. I was going to respond before but my demanding little Bengal needed attention (she likes me to brush her while she runs on her cat wheel).

Oh and frogs I forgot to mention how good your extract looks, it has some nice color to it. I've been meaning to do separate comparisons of water vs. alcohol extract. Apparently the water extract is supposed to contain more of the mood lifting alkaloids while the alcohol extract is supposed to have more of the sedating ones. That nice brown colored powder from your first attempt has rekindled my interest.
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