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Anyone here with ADD/ADHD? 10 months 2 weeks ago #46125

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lacie,

I am really happy you found us too!!!

we all learn from each other and you have opened my eyes a lot on your condition. ill admit im a big ignorant on the subject. at least in adults. its sad you are in the same 'group' in a way as opiates.

sounds strange, not trying to be offensive. some conditions are hard to PROVE unless your records go back. anyways, if people didn't start selling Adderall or whatever to students to 'improve studying' or whatever, and it didn't work, I betcha you taking the medication would never be an issue. this is the sad part. ok well you need it, but others misuse made the grip tighter on scripts.

as far as your sleep issues, I know of a couple natural medicines that can help. neither taste too bad. not great but not horrible lol. in sense/ gold leaf carries both at a really reasonable price. great concentration/ quality for the price. reach out to them if you like and give them a call if you like. but please do your own research. all have many other health benefits other than helping you sleep. corydalis and skullcap are my favorites. im usually fine with a 00 capsule of either ( about a half bakers teaspoon or 1/2 gram ) but if my mind is on super overdrive and I NEED a good sleep soon ill take one of each. or 1 and 1 wild lettuce or phelledendron. ( good for lowering blood pressure, blood sugar, and LDLs ) im overweight but regulated my own cholesterol and blood pressure with these. honestly. the only side effect is im told I snore more lol..and they can bind you up. so plenty of natural fiber and water.

I hope this helps. ive learned so much from this great family forum. we are all here to learn, connect, and help others learn. pay it forward so to speak. its so sad the 'big powers' don't even allow vendors to talk freely about possible effects. so we can! ner ner ner ner! ;)
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Anyone here with ADD/ADHD? 10 months 2 weeks ago #46113

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I love how this forum is supportive and not judgy! A lot of people in our community have illnesses or injuries and kratom is a wonderful tool AND it brings together such wonderful people who can share about our challenges and we are 1) believed and 2) respectfully supported with genuine empathy.

The people is the primary benefit I have gotten from kratom!
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Anyone here with ADD/ADHD? 10 months 2 weeks ago #46112

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You might benefit from White Noise, or sound that has a similar effect. A small fan on low speed, or the drone of an all news radio station can work well at that.

If you have an Android device then this free, ad-free, app can be a winner.

play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.axet.binauralbeats

The "Study and Learning" one can keep you in the zone for hours when on the internet.

There are tons of youtube videos, some better than others. The android app is the way to go, imo.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAyA7rfyF38
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Anyone here with ADD/ADHD? 10 months 2 weeks ago #46111

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I thank you, Lacie J.,for inspiring me to find that Reddit page as I had no idea it existed until you started asking some good questions. I've barely scratched the surface of it, but it inspired me to mix some things up in my supplementation, and use of Kratom. I'm dialing back the stimulating nootropics for a few days while dialing in more White and Green Kratom. Even when avoiding caffeine at night, which never bothered me in the past, I was finding it harder to just fall asleep while in bed. I wasn't anxious, and my energy level was low, but I was just too alert. Last night was better as I didn't take the more stimulating nootropics yesterday.

I was overdue for a break of the stimulating ones anyway. I'm a new user, and the conventional wisdom is to take the occasional break. So no Adrafinil, Aniracetam, or Noopept, yesterday, or today.

Lol, it's also a nice break from weighing them out! the Noopept serving is just 12 mg. so I need a special microgram scale for that. Fortunately Amazon had one for very cheap. Flimsier than my one for Kratom and regular supplements, but it does the trick.

I guess I respond really well to Adrafinil as I was taking only one dose a day, and that first thing in my day, and with a serving only one third that which is recommended. And I suppose it works in conjunction with the added choline I was taking, plus other supplements that dovetail with its actions.

Microdosing for the win!

In the past I generally shotgunned new supplements all at once, but with nootropics I've come to appreciate using them one at a time in small doses, and giving them time to work.
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Anyone here with ADD/ADHD? 10 months 2 weeks ago #46110

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Hey! I personally do have ADD myself, I find that yellow really helps me for some reason, as well as more "mellow" whites. However, I still struggle sometimes even WITH Kratom, it is hard! I sure hope you find something that works for you!
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I can see why you thought these idiosyncrasies were character issues. I have 75% of those listed AND MANY NOT MENTIONED:)

Thank you for sharing this with us because this website helps a lot of people who never log in! Misunderstood illnesses are prolific in the kratom community. Probably because kratom is helpful and even the leaf is often misunderstood, too!
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Anyone here with ADD/ADHD? 10 months 2 weeks ago #46107

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I'm loving the links Babel. Still reading them.Especially the reddit Kratom for ADD. Can't thank you enough. So glad I found this place.
There are many things that have a link to ADD that I thought was my idiosyncrasies My whole life I've had problems with fabrics touching my skin. As early as 2nd grade. I had a beautiful pink mohair sweater my mom got me. It itched me so bad I kept leaving it places trying to lose it. People kept returning it. Finally told mom and it was given away.

I can't tolerate tight clothes especially jeans. I triple rinse my laundry because I swear I can feel it if there's soap still on them. Loud noises are like nails on a chalkboard for me. Unless it's music I'm listening to.It's often noise I view as unnecasarry. Like a motorcycle purposely revving its engine. Doesn't bother me if it's just normal engine noise. I love quiet.

I've learned that I don't filter what goes into my brain or comes out of my mouth like others. Where most can have multiple noises at once and can block most out,I can't all info hits my brain at once. In a conversation I sometimes interrupt or blurt something out. Never am I rude or unkind or say hurtful things. It's like I have a hard time waiting until it's my turn to talk.

I was surprised to learn it's Sensory Processing Disorder,quite common in ADD.It's a neurological issue where the sensory info that enters the brain responds in ways much different than someone Neuro Typical or NT. Mine are auditory and touch. But I know of others with issues with taking a shower or bath. They can't stand the sensation of water hitting their skin in a shower so they bathe. Others can only shower because they hate the feel of standing water on their skin.

Who'd of thought hating itchiness and loud TV would be related to ADD
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Anyone here with ADD/ADHD? 10 months 3 weeks ago #46073

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Thank you for the great link, Babel-17!
Laurie
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I knew we would learn a lot from you. Thank you for sharing your challenges, Lacie J!
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Thank you for the links. I doubt you could ever post too many for me. They go into my book as does info I learned and want to be able to refer back to. It's one of the helpful things I've learned to do to help with my symptoms. Speaking of symptoms. Sleep issues are a huge one. Why I'm awake at 3:20 AM is beyond me. I take a non-narcotic sleeping pill that isn't working.

I was diagnosed at 37 by my primary care Dr. This was when the realization that you don't outgrow ADD was beginning. All the behaviors that I attributed to my severely flawed character actually had a cause. I was thrilled to be able to tell my mom and sis about my diagnosis. At times though I felt like a fraud. Some of the stereotypical behaviors didn't apply to me. For example time management. I'm never late ever. ADDer's typically are chronically late. My problem with time is that I don't have much of a concept of how long a task will take and I run out of time.

Then I came across a book called 'Women with ADD' by Sari Solden. It was life-changing for me. She explains in detail the ways that it affects girls differently than boys. I cried through it. It was like she was telling my life story.

Another symptom that is common is hyperfocus. It's like being in the zone but it lasts a lot longer. I I make beaded jewelry as a hobby. It seems like sitting there stringing tiny beads on wire would be impossible for an ADDer. Hyperfocus enables me to make 10 bracelets and a few necklaces in an afternoon.
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