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Anyone here with ADD/ADHD? 9 hours 41 minutes ago #52523

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Aside from nootropics, magnesium L threonate helps.
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Anyone here with ADD/ADHD? 3 weeks 2 days ago #52217

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Armodafinil sounds very powerful. It's now a generic drug, and has been since 2016, so your/a doctor should be able to prescribe you an inexpensive supply. You might have insomnia issues with it though.

armodafinil has a longer half-life than modafinil does, it may be more effective at improving wakefulness in patients with excessive daytime sleepiness.


Wow, there's something more long lasting than modafinil available? I had been taking its country cousin, Adrafinil, for a while, and I was dividing the capsules into three daily doses because it kept me revved up into bedtime. It's non-prescription, yay, but not cheap, boo, and actually gives the liver more exercise than modafinil, double-boo.

I wish I didn't feel compelled to say you have your homework cut out for you, but that could be the situation.

I'll link to the Reddit Nootropics page, and when you see people warn you about something that is legal but is either addictive, potentially harmful, or both, you should tend to believe them.

But it is a good starting point to learn about herbals to help you to sleep, and nootropics to deal with ADD. Oh right, I forgot, ADD (ADHD) support is super plentiful on Reddit.

I've got some Nootropics that I cycle as part of what supplements I take, but they can be finicky, and some require an accurate milligram scale to measure out.

www.reddit.com/r/ADHD/

www.reddit.com/r/Nootropics/

Right off the bat I can warn you that combining "stacking" nootropics is very popular, but that requires extra care. And I'll also venture that I agree with something you'll hear everywhere, that if you take Nootropics you need choline, and cholinergics like acetylcholine, and a personal favorite, lecithin, for a variety of reasons, the most urgent being to ward off headaches, and the tightening band effect on the head that stimulating Nootropics can deliver, along with their sought after benefits.

A few even say that once they feel like they've benefited from what they were stacking, choline itself is enough of a stimulating nootropic for them and they'll use that for maintenance. I found that at times if I was too buzzed from a stimulating Kratom, and I felt pressure in my head, that either acetylcholine or lecithin would quickly take care of that.

Oddly enough, the Mitragynine based extract I bought from In Sense Botanicals has caused me to heavily curtail my rotation of stimulating supplements as for me it's been extra effective in giving me a boost, and keeping me "in the zone". I take just 100 mg. a day of it, blended into regular Kratom, and even at that amount I often have to carefully allow for its "blast-off". I think that's mostly how I respond to it, but I'd be remiss if I didn't mention how little is needed to get a good, nootropic, (possibly useful for ADD) effect.

So oddly enough, while I point you to the Nootropics page at Reddit, I'm suggesting that you just use that for research, at least for now. But I don't find Kratom, even the best Reds, as eliminating my other supplements in my go to bags and bottles in my kitchen from being what I want at night.

For bedtime there's lot of useful stuff to help with getting to sleep, and most of it is inexpensive if you shop carefully, and are willing to take powdered extracts that are sold in bags. Valerian Root Extract, Passion Flower, Skullcap, Kava, Theanine, Magnesium, Melatonin, Lemon Balm, Magnolia Bark Extract, and others, all provide an alternate way to relax, and get soothed, and they can be combined with a night time strain of Kratom.

Fused Flora, Pharmacy Drop Out (PDO), and In Sense, all have an interesting inventory of herbals to look over, as do some other Kratom vendors. I'm sure you'll hear more suggestions for herbals that can help with ADD, and others that can help with getting to sleep.

Research now, buy later, other than maybe some Magnesium, which is after all a necessary nutrient. Best of luck in your efforts at self care!
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Anyone here with ADD/ADHD? 3 weeks 3 days ago #52201

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I went to my former doctor (a GP) with concerns of ADD, was assessed and diagnosed with ADD, and prescribed with Phentermine. The effects were astounding, for about three days, and then it stopped. I found out thereafter that the doctor wasn’t proscribing the Phentermine for ADD, but for weight loss and had lied to me. I live in central Arkansas and am having trouble finding ANYONE who has any interest in treating ADD in adults. What should I do? My old family doctor told me he doesn’t prescribe medication for ADD but said me to get that , considering all the stimulants to be nothing but “legal speed” and he won’t do that to me. I’m stuck. Everyone wants me to lose weight but I can’t remember that I am supposed to be dieting and exercising from moment to moment. I don’t know what to do.
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Anyone here with ADD/ADHD? 7 months 3 weeks ago #47841

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lacie.

im so sorry to hear. that's tough. you can only do what you can I know things would get overwhelming for anybody.

glad you still love the blanket!

that's really cute.. the committee. kava really helps me. I get instant but im lazy with that lol I don't even need the expensive extract, but that's just me... I don't want another thing to strain. but I have one if I need it.
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Anyone here with ADD/ADHD? 7 months 3 weeks ago #47830

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Thank you. It was my dad who passed. His heart was only functioning at 12% and it just stopped. He was 95 1/2. I've lived with my folks for 8 years now. They just couldn't do what they used to and needed help. Mom and I were in major denial.We thought he'd have much more time than he did. Mom's 89 and I'm doing my best to take care of everything.I feel like I have the weight of the world on my shoulders and am totally overwhelmed. Makes my ADD symptoms so much worse.

Sleep issues are a hallmark trait of ADD. I've never heard of quetiapine. I take Trazadone and Benadryl for sleep. Would like to try some natural things because Trazadone makes me so hung over and tired the next day. I have a weighted blanket and it was a game changer. I still don't sleep as well as normal people do even with it. But so much better than it was.I've been awake many times all night throughout the years. I function OK until about the third day of being up all night.

Coca is definetly not legal here. I wish it was. you're lucky. Bet it helps with your ADD. Have you tried any other stimulant besides Ritalin? Vyvanse gets great reviews in the ADD groups I'm in on Facebook. I can't afford it or I'd try it. It runs around 400 a month here. I'm interested in how you do on the strains you have coming. Make sure to post about it.
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Anyone here with ADD/ADHD? 7 months 3 weeks ago #47829

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I refer to the chatter in my brain as 'The Committee'. It's like being in a meeting and everyone's talking at once. The only thing that's ever quieted the chatter is a benzo called Klonopin. I take Trazadone and Benadryl for sleep. Going to have to try some of your suggestions as trazadone makes me hung over the next day.

I still love my weighted blanket.
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Anyone here with ADD/ADHD? 7 months 3 weeks ago #47760

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Michele,
I took 1.5g of corydalis last night and Liz had nudge me in the middle of the night to stop me from snoring. :lol:
My Grandkids say I’m a cuckoo head. ;)
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Anyone here with ADD/ADHD? 7 months 3 weeks ago #47751

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I forgot to talk about the strain I use, I really haven't compared the different ones, but I'll make a comparison when I get the four strains I have ordered ;)
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Anyone here with ADD/ADHD? 7 months 3 weeks ago #47750

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Hey Lacie, I'm sorry for your loss. My psych told me I have ADD, I also have a brain that refuses to switch off. I had an addiction to Xanax for 15 years but I managed to kick them about 4 years ago. I take quetiapine to sleep at night these days. I'm not going to recommend it because I really would rather using something natural. I'm not convinced that it isn't making me feel sleepy during the day. It's just been impossible for me to function properly without proper sleep, so I kind of rely on it for that reason. It also calms the chatter.
I'm not sure if Coca tea is legal over there? It's available in Australia and I find it very useful for ADD. I've just discovered it. It has something like 14 alkaloids including cocaine at about .25 percent. It's not the same as using cocaine and I would not ever condone it, but the tea is refreshing, motivating and energizing. Might work well in combination with Kratom? I'm about to find out lol, I'm expecting my Kratom order later this week. I'll let you know how I go.
B)Cheers!!
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Anyone here with ADD/ADHD? 7 months 3 weeks ago #47737

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hey guys. I don't have add but I understand the warp speed brain chatter. used to be a bit of a night owl insomniac. now I go to bed early willingly most nights. but anywhoo..things that do help me wind down kava and phelledendron ( used for 6wk/ at a time regulated cholesterol and blood pressure. helps keep blood sugar stable too )

corydalis and Chinese skullcap help me for sleep/ PM pain if needed. rotate between them and sometimes add a touch of wild lettuce if needed. if I REALLY have go get to sleep early and im wound, its ok to take small doses of corydalis and skullcap together. only downside is then ill snore my husband out of bed lol..which is only sometimes bad haha.. hes done it to me many times!
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