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Opiate withdrawal and kratom thoughts 1 year 9 months ago #31393

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Thank you for the reply I will keep my progress posted
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Opiate withdrawal and kratom thoughts 1 year 9 months ago #31392

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6 capsules .5 grams = 3 grams which is a modestly lower dose for someone looking to get off of suboxone.
Since 3 grams is not working you need to increase your dose.
I cannot say what your dose should be if you need more feedback try Reddit Kratom Forum, we can definitely help you here as you need but they have 50,000 members as to our small but growing 5500. They cannot recommend sources for kratom like we can but sometimes you might need answers faster. www.reddit.com/r/kratom/new/
Also the- www.facebook.com/groups/PROACTIVE2/
Kratom Consumer Advocacy and Support (An AKA sponsored group) can be helpful. More rules on the other two forums but good to gather information.
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Opiate withdrawal and kratom thoughts 1 year 9 months ago #31390

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I am currently taking 6 capsules the package says they are .5 grams each, that doesn’t seem to do much. I was thinking maybe I’m taking too much but if I was I’m sure I would feel it.
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Opiate withdrawal and kratom thoughts 1 year 9 months ago #31389

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I do not have the personal experience, I linked some information if you find answer there-

www.ilovekratom.com/kratom-news-blog/57-the-easies...addiction-to-opiates

www.ilovekratom.com/forum/the-kratom-users-guide-2...start=0#.W7P9QGhKiUn

In the mean time what dose are currently trying?
I have seen Reds recommended for switching off suboxone I would look into getting a few Reds strains.
Hopefully soon you will get more first hand knowledgeable answers, your dose will be a lot higher than the recommended starting dose.
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Opiate withdrawal and kratom thoughts 1 year 9 months ago #31388

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I am using this to replace suboxone but I can’t seem to find the right dose. I have been on suboxone for over 10 years, any ideas? I have green maeng da
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Opiate withdrawal and kratom thoughts 1 year 9 months ago #31359

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freddieflins:
HOPE - the most common side effect of Kratom use!


Your story is very moving but not unusual. Many opiate users have come to this forum with similar stories.
And I never get tired of reading them!

To be able to be in control of your own health and not have to rely on pharmacists or docs is very empowering and uplifting. It also helps to restore a sense of self respect.

I wil give some caution though - as helping people is what we are about here.

For long term use Kratom must be managed. This means keeping your dose at the level needed for you. As tolerance develops, and it will, the effects of Kratom become more subtle and not so noticeable. It is easy to keep increasing the dose but that is not necessary.

Kratom WILL continue to work even in the long term.

All I need to do to remind myself of this is to stop taking it, and then I really notice what a good job it is doing for pain management!

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Opiate withdrawal and kratom thoughts 1 year 9 months ago #31358

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And with those you simply trading up to more socially acceptable addictions but for those new to this they are addictions just the same. In fact it's reported to be harder coming off of Subs and Methadone than it is other forms of opiates, and as mentioned drug companies are making billions off of these addictions as well as methadone clinics. Try going to a methadone clinic for help with no money nor any insurance , or walk into a sub providers office with the same story. Addiction is an huge problem it really is a choice of where do you want your money to go. Addiction is an industry and like with all industries things must keep moving forward , progressing so that the bottom line is acceptable. I am certainly not saying that heroin is ok but opiates are opiates whether they come from a Doctor or clinic they're all doing pretty much the same thing. My experience with methadone clinics were not unlike my experience with dealers. They both provided a service that i thought i desperately needed so in my mind scoring was scoring. Try missing a payment at a Methadone clinic , a place with the ostensible function of helping, and you will quickly learn the true agenda.
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Opiate withdrawal and kratom thoughts 1 year 9 months ago #31357

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Welcome to the best kratom forum ever, freddieflins!

The irony is not lost on me!

And methadone and subs are BIG CASH COWS $$$!
Laurie

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Opiate withdrawal and kratom thoughts 1 year 9 months ago #31356

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I am truly hopeful that this can help someone. I've been using opiates of one form or another for over 20 years due in large part to a disease that brings with it chronic pain. Like so many others it started seemingly innocuously with hydrocodone. Problem was i really liked the hydrocodone and before i knew why it was too late. Won't bore you guys with all the details, needless to say my story is not unlike millions of others. Started using Kratom a couple days ago and no opiates, was very nervous about making this transition , however, woke up this morning with minor withdrawal symptoms , took 6 capsules and within 10 mins the symptoms dissipated and i am currently feeling just fine. Now, this is my experience and quite frankly i wasn't using a lot of opiates but when i didn't i certainly was reminded that my body wanted the stuff. Kratom appears to have taken care of my fears of getting off of opiates. I've tried methadone and suboxone both of which work wonderfully. There is an inherent stigma attached to using those medications based on my experience with pharmacy staff when trying to fill these scripts. Conversely, I had a very nice conversation with the person who sold me the Kratom, they were all too eager to help. I remember having at least three arguments with pharmacy staff over trying to pick up scripts that were mine and available for pick up. Kudos to Kratom and the Gov't who has yet to make this illegal. A number of years ago ( not sure if it's still true today) hydrocodone was the single most prescribed medication in the US, I'm sure that Kratom poses an huge threat to their bottom line and well it should.
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Opiate withdrawal and kratom thoughts 1 year 10 months ago #30650

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WOW...for some reason I was reading these older posts again and it really lifted my spirits!
BEV

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