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Fresh Leaves 4 months 2 weeks ago #33671

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Does anyone know of any resources for dosing or using fresh leaves vs dry leaves?

Everything is dried leaves or powder, but what if my access is to fresh leaves?
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If you have access to fresh leaves then you have a gold mine. You would have to fly to Indonesia to have access to Fresh Kratom Leaves or have a growing plant yourself. I would think that fresh leaves would be more potent than dried leaves. So I wouldn't take but about half as much to be sure if you have fresh leaves.
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Not far from there. I guess for you guys it's great, but for me I don't have any choices of strains, so that's one drawback. The other is that the leaves vary in size and water weight, so I'm not really sure how to weigh half of what other people use.
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A friend of mine has a tree and chews one leaf every so often. He ALSO uses dried leaf doses because his disease is very debilitating and going outside to the tree can take a toll.

Where are you located, geographically? It makes a difference with regard to fresh leaves. Plus, there are a lot of kratom trees with zero alkaloids we enjoy. Then chewing a leaf is a waste of time.
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Legality is grey, but its where they grow naturally.

I just only have access to buying leaves. I think I'll try to dry them myself to see how it compares to using the fresh leaves.

Chewing wasn't very enjoyable and tea was...
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Laurie makes a great point. Not all Kratom Trees have Alkaloids. I've heard from Suppliers that you have to find the ones that have the Alkaloids & then look for the ones that have the highest yield of Alkaloids which is difficult.
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So I guess this more highlights my problem. I know its active because this is where it grows naturally and it works well for me. But then the problem may be where the amount per leaf varies no matter the weight.

But if I try to calculate dry leaf doses into my fresh leaf doses, I get stuff that's way too strong usually. That or its just difficult to predict.
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Why bother with dry? I would choose one form for balancing out your relief. Pick dry or wet for a few days and see? Do you know what strain it is? Just curious.

Hope you can find these other herbs where you are. If not, I’m sure people in your region would have the same needs and suggestions they have tried?
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Well I guess I'll have to check the legality on those, I should be able to order it if it's legal here.

I don't know the strain, do you know if there is any way to tell what strain it is?

Is there a way to send a private message? I would be open to sharing more information in a more private way...
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I’m told, the vein color in the fresh leaf is how you determine which strain it is. Or the color of the vein once dried, depending on drying procedure (outdoor air versus indoor). There will be more knowledge on this.

My money is on green where you are, or you’d have noticed that.

The PM system is down and has been for about a year now...
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