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Results from doctor 1 year 11 months ago #25350

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Like I mentioned before, slight pain in the right side, felt swollen. Blood test came back fine and had a ultrasound. The ultrasound showed I have a fatty liver and doesn't cause pain. I asked about fatty liver disease and she said it's not that and just have a fatty liver. She said I have a long way to go before damage starts. But I'm unaware of what it was like before kratom. So there's no way of really telling. It could just be speeding the process up from where she said it's a long way till fatty liver disease. What if it's accumulating
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Results from doctor 1 year 11 months ago #25354

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Pretty sure powdered leaf product is saturated fat free. Sorry to hear about fatty liver, tho. Have you tried milk thistle? It’s the best herb for liver detox that I used to avoid death during my heavy drinking days of long ago. So glad kratom makes other substances look as bad as they really are.
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Results from doctor 1 year 11 months ago #25357

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Medical conditions don't happen for no reason. We are usually doing something to contribute to the problem. If it was me who had the common problem of NAFLD (Non-Alcoholic-Fatty-Liver-Disease), I would do some research into the causes of it. One known cause is consumption of High Fructose Corn Syrup, which is in soft drinks, candies, food products, etc. Get that and anything else that's contributing to the problem out of my diet, is what I'd do.

I've never heard of kratom causing the problem. Consuming fat does not necessarily cause this problem, either. Google it to learn the known risk factors.
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kemppaulh wrote: Medical conditions don't happen for no reason. We are usually doing something to contribute to the problem. If it was me who had the common problem of NAFLD (Non-Alcoholic-Fatty-Liver-Disease), I would do some research into the causes of it. One known cause is consumption of High Fructose Corn Syrup, which is in soft drinks, candies, food products, etc. Get that and anything else that's contributing to the problem out of my diet, is what I'd do.

I've never heard of kratom causing the problem. Consuming fat does not necessarily cause this problem, either. Google it to learn the known risk factors.


I'm not bashing maeng da, but as we all know everything comes with risks. For the mean time I will lower my does, take milk trustel detox thing, and I just joined a gym. Although the person at the gym says she has a fatty liver too and exercise doesn't help
Just diet.
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Results from doctor 1 year 11 months ago #25360

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This is the same exact problem except Its been three years since heavy drinking. And hell this time last year I was 285 now a year later I'm 220. I'm not fat lol

Hi Guys. 2 days ago after getting an ultrasound for some right upper abdomen discomfort, my doctor tells me that I have fatty liver infiltration. He says I can deal with it through diet and exercise and get it checked again next year. The problem is that I take kratom almost every day now, and I fear that the kratom may have caused this diagnosis. Here is why... I do not drink alcohol, I quit drinking over a year ago after a pretty serious drinking problem. At the same time that I got the ultrasound, I had my liver enzymes checked with a blood test and they were perfect. Like I said, it has been over a year since abusing my body with alcohol. In the last year I have also lost about 50 lbs through diet and exercise and I am in the best shape of my adult life right now. So I really have a hard time believing that the fatty liver is left over from my drinking days. This leaves the only other cause as the kratom that I have been taking almost daily for about 4 months.

If Kratom is the cause of the fatty liver diagnosis, I am going to be very disappointed because it has really helped me leave behind the alcohol cravings. I am stopping the kratom as of yesterday and I will see if the discomfort which led me to the ultrasound goes away. (Never had the discomfort while I drank, btw). Has anyone else had liver problems from Kratom? Any other ideas of why this is happening? I would be really bummed to have to eliminate Kratom in my life. Help

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I would err on the side of caution and tell anyone to stop kratom immediately if you suspect a problem.
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Laurie wrote: I would err on the side of caution and tell anyone to stop kratom immediately if you suspect a problem.


If you are going to take an herb to detox the liver make sure you are also supporting your lymphatic system. When the liver starts getting rid of accumulated toxins they have to have somewhere to go. They are usually excreted through the kidneys, bowels, and lymphatic system.

If you stimulate release of toxins but they cannot be excreted fast enough by the body's own elimination routes...well...you might no feel very well.

Drink plenty of good water.

BE PATIENT. One liver detox does not a healthy body make.
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bomalley wrote:

Laurie wrote: I would err on the side of caution and tell anyone to stop kratom immediately if you suspect a problem.


If you are going to take an herb to detox the liver make sure you are also supporting your lymphatic system. When the liver starts getting rid of accumulated toxins they have to have somewhere to go. They are usually excreted through the kidneys, bowels, and lymphatic system.

If you stimulate release of toxins but they cannot be excreted fast enough by the body's own elimination routes...well...you might no feel very well.

Drink plenty of good water.

BE PATIENT. One liver detox does not a healthy body make.
Only way to support lymphatic system system is to drink water? What's the odds of it taking any fat away.

Bare with me folks. I am really worried about my over all health, but I don't want to lose kratom. I need to develop some forum of trial and error. Like work out every day while taking kratom and get another ultrasound, work out while eating healthy and then get another ultrasound, stop kratom for a month and get another ultrasound. This can be done in 3 or 4 months, but I'm not the smartest person either...

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Plus I'm promising to be proactive. I immediately signed up for a 50$ a month gym and spent my first hour there today. It's so hard working out without motivators though.
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Frogs, I know you are worried. So you do what you can. Every time you need to go to the gym and don't feel like it, think of your reasons for going. That's what can motivate you to keep at it. Plus, you'll hit this fantastic point where the things that were so hard to do will be easy, and it will make you feel like a King!

The worry about your liver...I get it. Drinking was one of the few things I didn't do. Couldn't afford the bail money. (I just love saying that!) Think carefully now about the changes you made in your life since you stopped drinking. What are your eating habits? I have to say I really agree with Kemp. High fructose corn syrup is HORRIBLE. It does so much damage. And it's in everything. It's not allowed into this house. My husband and I eat only home cooked, no processed foods, and we drove up to the mountains and were starving so we stopped at McDonalds. Within 20 minutes of having eaten, we both felt like we were dying. It was awful what that 'food' did to us. And to top it off hit tasted terrible.

Do a bit of investigating into that - I'll bet you'll be surprised. High fructose corn syrup was originally a by product, and the industry wanted to sell it's garbage so they did. I can't remember all the details on it but I can guarantee you it's bad news. So think about the changes. What do you eat? Did you start getting loads of headaches once you stopped drinking and maybe you were taking Tylenol or another headache remedy? Something that is innocuous on it's own can be deadly in combination with other things.

The last time I had a full check up, the doctor checked the results in front of me. I think because I smoked and had taken Ativan for years she was prepared to see liver damage and there was none. (Big surprised look on her face - wipe that off lady!) I don't know whether or not she thought I drank or maybe it was just the Ativan, but the tests were really good. So when I can afford to go get those tests done again I will and I will tell you what the results are.

It would be good too as Laurie and Bomalley say to look to things that can help support the health and healing of your body. I've noticed a lot of people experience various g.i. problems with Kratom. If you can, sit down and think about what changes you've noticed. Read about what others have noticed and see if you've experienced the same. I'm wishing you well on this Frog.
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