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Need Advice - Trying for 1st time when I run out of suboxone script 2 months 4 days ago #29071

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wow... this forum business is new to me. I apologize if I'm not doing this in the right place or in the right way. So I am new to kratom and came across it while looking for a way to get in between my Suboxone prescriptions or possibly assistant tapering off of Suboxone. I have chronic pain and do not want to go up on my Suboxone prescription and my doctor wouldn't raise me up anyways. And he will not fill my script early. I have been using my husband's codeine inbetween my prescriptions so I don't go into withdrawal but I hate doing this. I will have about 3 days without any medication. And I begin getting restless legs & hot and cold sweats only 18 hours after my last Suboxone dose.My discomfort is nearly cobstant but I find relief for 6 hours after taking suboxone. I dose at 2mg 3 times a day for 6mg total. I have two kids to care for and a job and I have a very important meeting next week. I'm experiencing a lot of pain in the evenings as well. And if I try to not take suboxone throughout the day I have pain then as well. So I am wondering if it would be possible for me to switch from 6mg of Suboxone directly to kratom. Can I do this with very minimal withdrawal effects? I'm a pretty sensitive person. And I am very scared.
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Need Advice - Trying for 1st time when I run out of suboxone script 2 months 4 days ago #29072

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The only way to know would be to try it...perhaps on some days when you do not have to report to work.

Wait until you feel withdrawal, then take a dose of Kratom (red strains are best for pain/relaxation). Starting with 2 Gms and see how it goes. Alternatively you could go with a Maeng Da strain. Try not to use whites as they are very stimulating. At this stage you just want to try things out to see how you react.

See how long your first dose lasts and how well you tolerate it. When you start to feel withdrawal again repeat the kratom dose.

You may be able to go a full 24 hours without any Suboxone.

I switched from oxycodone directly to Kratom without any difficulty. I just took the Kratom INSTEAD of the oxy. THAT worked for me. Other people may have more difficulty ... it really depends on how much you take (of suboxone AND kratom) and what condition your opiate receptors are in.

AND you have to be willing to experiment...there are no recipes that we can say will be successful for you.

I understand your fear as this is somewhat of an unknown, but ask yourself this...Were you afraid to take the suboxone when it was first prescribed? Suboxone is about 100 times more dangerous than Kratom so you cannot do yourself any harm.

It does however, take some time for your body to adjust to the alkaloids in Kratom.

Oh and welcome to the forum, You can learn a lot here...I did!
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Need Advice - Trying for 1st time when I run out of suboxone script 2 months 4 days ago #29073

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Thank you so much for your quick reply. I found during my pregnancy that my Panic East a lot when I was able to get support through forum. Just to clarify I'm not scared of Kratom at all. I am scared of withdrawal really scared. But I'm also just scared that my daily pain discomfort and anxiety will go out of control. I'm going to try switching this weekend when I don't have to work. But I still have kids I have to take care of and have trouble keeping up with my house as it is.
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Need Advice - Trying for 1st time when I run out of suboxone script 2 months 4 days ago #29074

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FEAR is the emotion that is MOST AFFECTED by opiates - not in a good way.

FEAR OF WITHDRAWAL is normal. Had it for fits and starts for about a year before I jumped from oxy to nuthin and eventually to kratom regularly.

Try to remember the FEAR is EXAGGERATED. Your emotion centers are deeply affected by opiates and beyond (takes a long time for them to adjust sans opiates).

I also have anxiety and chronic pain.

BoMalley told you the rest of the story.

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Need Advice - Trying for 1st time when I run out of suboxone script 2 months 2 days ago #29096

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Kratom is how I got off of Suboxone. Cutting the strips into quarters, weaning myself off. Then took Kratom when I ran out, eventually only taking Kratom.
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Need Advice - Trying for 1st time when I run out of suboxone script 2 months 2 days ago #29115

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Just to clarify I'm not scared of Kratom at all. I am scared of withdrawal, really scared


There really is no need to go through withdrawal.

Go as long as you can and when you feel it start to come on take something. That can be either a dose of Kratom or suboxone BUT NOT BOTH.

the bet way to get your body used to going without is to go longer and longer between doses.

Good luck this weekend...I lood forward to your report.
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Need Advice - Trying for 1st time when I run out of suboxone script 2 months 1 day ago #29121

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So my last Suboxone dose was about 6:30 p.m. on Thursday evening. Due to my issues with pain and heightened anxiety I've always needed to split my doses up. Anytime I try to take my full suboxone dose at once it made me feel way too tired and, quite frankly, High. I didn't like it and then by 7 or 8 hours later I started to feel pain again and just not feeling good. So anyways that's why I dose two or three times a day with suboxone. So 6:30 on Thursday evening was my last dose of Suboxone. I'm doing pretty good so far but I know that day 3 and 4 tend to be the worst. If it's possible for me to do so I would like to NOT  begin taking the Suboxone again and just stick with the kratom. Therefore I would like to know what is the absolute Max grams of Kratom I can take in a single day? And within a single dosing time frame. This morning I did one teaspoon of green Bali and then wasn't too sure about the way it made me feel so half hour later I tried adding a 1/2 teaspoon of red Hulu and then a half hour after that I did another half teaspoon of red Hulu. So 2 teaspoons which I know is about 6 grams. It's only been about two and a half hours since the last time and I have the sweats in the fidgets. Would it be okay if I just dose one teaspoon every 2 hours. So far that seems to be the length in between before I start feeling icky
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Need Advice - Trying for 1st time when I run out of suboxone script 2 months 1 day ago #29122

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On a side-note, right in the middle of trying to leave this post I had put my phone on top of my friend's car as I was buckling my son into her vehicle. Just after I shut the door to my house and she drove off I remembered where I had left my phone. in a panic I started physically running after her car instead of grabbing my keys and getting into my own car. Classic. Thankfully I came to my senses and went and got into my car to follow after her. I know that woman like the back of my hand so I knew she'd be going to the coffee shop and therefore knew the route she would take. Luckily I found my phone on the side of the road with the protector screen I got from the dollar store completely shattered and the cover on the other side of the road down a little bit. Not sure how that happened. But I am so happy my phone is alive for me to tell you the story. Which I know you probably don't care about but I'm just ecstatic that I still have my phone! Especially because this is how I write to you guys for support!
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Need Advice - Trying for 1st time when I run out of suboxone script 2 months 1 day ago #29123

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Sorry I'm leaving so many messages. I'm kid free so have the chance and Kratom is kind of my world right now because it's keeping me together and possibly allow me to get free of Suboxone. Would I be able to take suboxone in the morning before going to work and then kratom in the evening if I'm feeling icky? I've never been able to successfully go more than 12 hours in between Suboxone doses. But during my work day at might be kind of hard to keep dosing with kratom. At least for the next week. So I'm just wondering what your thoughts are on the morning dose of Suboxone and then afternoon evening dosing of Kratom?
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Need Advice - Trying for 1st time when I run out of suboxone script 2 months 1 day ago #29124

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Would it be okay if I just dose one teaspoon every 2 hours. So far that seems to be the length in between before I start feeling icky


YES YES YES!

There is only one rule to get you through the weekend.

Take as much Kratom as you need, as often as you need, to be comfortable.

The ONLY problem with doing this is taking too much Kratom and that could make you vomit...however, if you can already tolerate 6 gms without any stomach upset ...I think you are pretty safe.

Kratom is VERY, VERY safe BUT it can cause some people to vomit if they take too much and their stomach cannot handle the alkaloid content. It is not fun BUT it is over quick! AND most of us have been there!.
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