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TOPIC: Day 2 off subutex

Day 2 off subutex 2 months 1 week ago #34583

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I'll get some benefiber tommorow, and magnesium citrate for just in case. I have one more question for now. I want to order more kratom soon. How important is having different strains for what I am using it for? I dont get a lot of effect from it, but it does take a lot of the withdrawal away. The reason I ask is it's cheaper for me to just buy a kilogram.
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Day 2 off subutex 2 months 1 week ago #34597

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Take as much as you need as often as you need it to keep withdrawals away.

I think you are going to need more than just a fiber supplement to keep the drains running on time.

It is always better to be proactive in that department as constipation is a real bummer (pun intended!)

If you read the thread you know that we all have different things to say about how to beat constipation and what works best for each of us.

I do not recommend using magnesium because minerals exist in a certain balance in the body and using a lot of a single mineral can upset that balance....but that is just my way of looking at it.

I have spent most of my adult life battling nutritional issues and I would not do ANYTHING at this point that even remotely could tip my precarious nutritional balance! I prefer the herbal options using Cascara Sagrada and the Aloe Ferox - that stuff has been a lifesaver for me and my 97 year old mother!

Keep going on your Kratom experiment....looks like you are well on your way to being free of the subs!
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Day 2 off subutex 2 months 1 week ago #34605

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Structure0110, I hear you on Kratom being a lot cheaper by the kilo. I have found that having variety of Kratom leaves is the safest best way to keep your Kratom experience on track. By having a variety of strains in the Red category will help you continue to avoid WD's. By getting a few different reds you are giving your body a chance to have more alkaloids from the Kratom leaf in your system.
There is a 3 week honeymoon for most first time Kratom users. After about 3 weeks your body will adjust a little or a lot to your Kratom use. You will need to work harder to gain the same benefits that one or two strains have been giving you(Tolerance)

You will get a peace of mind that comes from knowing you have 4 or 5 different red strains to rotate and keep your Kratom experience fresh and constant. All Kratom leaves are unique and they all have a different Alkaloid make up.

There are vendors with high quality Kratom that are worth the extra. Re-Leaf, PDO , Gold Leaf/Insense and there are quality budget price vendors such as Canopy Botanicals and many more specials in Find a Vendor / Rate a vendor.

Think of it as an insurance policy. If you have all your eggs in one basket it can be a little scary if you start to get a tolerance to a kilo of the same leaf. Where as if you have 750 grams of 4 or five strains you have options against tolerance.

I have never ordered a full kilo for this purpose. I try to order 125g -250g of a strain and rotate through it and order more if I really liked it. Always keeping my Kratom options open and rotating vendors to find quality leaf.

Good Luck in your Kratom Adventure.....
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Day 2 off subutex 2 months 1 week ago #34608

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You’ve placed an order today already. Trust the advice given and please try to relax. Do you have any calming tea? We won’t abandon you on Day 3, or 4, or 5..Hopefully you’ll rest a while.

Volume buying is just not appropriate for this project. Trust me when I say you will have loads of unfinished bags lying around for a myriad of reasons.

Saving money buying in bulk just assures you a bigger bag leftover in the closet than most of us have. Multiple choices will be more helpful.

Sending big hugs of rest tonight to you and we’ll go over it all again tomorrow. You’ll be fine...<hug>
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Day 2 off subutex 2 months 1 week ago #34614

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Today is Day 3 of no subutex!! I am still excited, and proud to be doing this. I will admit I feel worse today than any other day. I am not sure how to explain it. Not as bad as it could be, but still kind of bad. I think calming tea would be a good idea. I dont have any, but I'll get some if I can make it out.

I really appreciate everyone taking time to give me lots of great advice. The Kratom journey is still very new to me. I understand not to buy a bunch of one kind. I will split up my order. Thanks again everyone!! I forget that my order is suppose to be here today, and it is few different strains. Maybe I will be able to understand it better.
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Day 2 off subutex 2 months 1 week ago #34615

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I am worried to run out during this. I have 250 g that will be here today. I guess just order more within the next few days of a few different kinds.
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Day 2 off subutex 2 months 1 week ago #34626

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250g of varying types is a healthy start! Remember you have to PROCESS that plant product through your body. Calming tea (PDO Botanicals has some excellent kava tea, and his discount code is ILK).

The other vendors posted some new discount codes over last week under VENDORS, APPROVED VENDORS.

Also the SEARCH button will bring a list of recent discussions if you search under Discount Code or Discount.

This process involves your whole body health and not just taking powder. Enough preaching from me for this morning (see you this afternoon) :-)
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I want to try some of that tea. I think it would help with my anxiety problems. Thank you Laurie!
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Day 2 off subutex 2 months 1 week ago #34635

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PDO Botanicals has a kava extract powder that is very strong and great for anxiety and very relaxing. I just add it to my tea and stir it until it fully dissolves.
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Day 2 off subutex 2 months 1 week ago #34638

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I agree! You are healing and it’s all just WEIRD. But TOTALLY doable.

PDO has this kava rarely. It’s the 90% cream colored stuff. I admit it’s the ONLY kava I’ve enjoyed. Ever. I also admit I ordered some last night while trying to chill you out. lol

Discount code is ILK

While you’re there, look around at the red vein strains he has SINCE YOU’RE THERE. And you’ve got the discount code in front of your face.

Please don’t buy more than 250 g TOTAL. Get smaller sized bags because you will have a lot left over and not EVERY STRAIN will be something you want AFTER THIS SHORT TERM detox.

You’ll have entirely different needs and dosing goes down if you continue with the leaf after your subs detox.

Enjoy your shopping. Not bad. You made it to 11AM Pacific time! lol
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