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Can someone see what I'm missing 5 months 1 week ago #34742

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Good morning y'all! Happy Valentine's Day. I am 3 months into my Kratom journey and I have no complaints. I have lots of confusion though. The past 2 weeks I've been dosing: wake up 1g white or green. 30 minutes later 1gwhite. 30 min later 1g gold. Then fire! Fire for e is I feel better than I did before I had surgery. No pain anywhere. I'd given up hope on that happening for me. The refrigerator alarm isn't going off because I'm standing there trying to figure out why I opened it. I'm able to do a few beginner yoga moves. I can sit in a restaurant an actually enjoy a meal. Pills couldn't do that. I understand ppl saying Kratom saved and gave quality back to life. Anywho, I've tried every combination I can think of. 3G together and I'm puking before I finish drinking tea. Dividing into 2 doses and I will be looking for my glasses and have them on. Half dose =no effects. Cutting all doses in half =no effect.If y'all got any suggestions please reply. My concern is I'm going to need this to work for me 10-20 yrs. from now. I dose at wake up anytime from 2-6am and again at 6pm. Occasionally I will dose .5-1g red for breakthrough pain. Diagnosis: brain surgery for aneurysm stroke trigemminal neuralgia which feels like something trying to break through the bone in my face and a constant toothache, constant burning stinging pain left shoulder. I feel like Kratom is taking care of anxiety depression and ptsd. Only wish I knew about Kratom years ago. Thanks for ur replies. Blessings
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Can someone see what I'm missing 5 months 1 week ago #34744

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Hello welcome to the forum.
You will get guidance here.
Let me see if I am getting this correct.
Kratom has been working for you but lately your dosing has not the same desirable effects?
I guess I will start off with a few questions.
How are you taking kratom, only brewing a tea?
Are you using a measuring spoon or scale?
Do you have a sweet spot dose? It seems like its 3 grams but it made you puke so that could mean too high.
1.5 grams, half dose no effects?
I think you are having trouble with dosing and maybe certain strains of kratom.

I actually found my dose to be 1.7 grams of greens/ and 2.4 grams for Reds. I rarely get results from mixing kratom. (my own experience)
Sometimes the 500mg increase of decrease is not the answer with Kratom but actually lower the dose by a bit or increasing the dose by a bit.

Quick questions
Scale?
Dosing schedule?
Quality kratom?
Kratom strains you have?
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Can someone see what I'm missing 5 months 1 week ago #34745

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Welcome to the best kratom forum ever, Keekee2!

I’ve had the same issues with dosing from time to time. It’s usually the powder itself is somehow too strong for me. Very frustrating because of the successes.

I would recommend you slow down about 10-20 years from now and just concentrate on today. That may help with the angst I’m picking up from your post (anxiety about the future and losing patience and interest in today). That is NOT a judgmental character attack, but just something I DO OFTEN and when I follow that suggestion, things get much easier TODAY.

Do you have an alternative vendor product handy?

I find a vendor switch AND loosening reigns on your “system” of dosing to allow for taking less/more or as needed. Kratom is not like a pill you take every three or four hours. Due to the varied effects based on our ever-evolving metabolism, it cannot be taken like a pain pill effectively.

Kratom takes work and no tree is the same, so the commitment to patience and acceptance of failure AT TIMES is necessary for continued results.

Not every day is as good as other days, Many people have TRIED AND TRIED to control the leaf with strict measurement and precise timing, etc.

We still have times where it’s not working.

Nan70 is asking some very good questions as well. She’s gotchoo and I am just glad you joined the forum.
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Can someone see what I'm missing 5 months 1 week ago #34756

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Congrats on finding Kratom. Nan and Laurie have great ideas. If you are experiencing Nassia/throwing up my sugesstion is to try taking your Kratom via Capsules. It is more expensive to buy or make them yourself. Sometimes Kratom will upset your stomach and Nassia/Vomiting sometimes happens. It shouldn't happen all the time though.

As you continue to use Kratom you will build a tolerance to Kratom. You will need to experiment with the quantity of your doses (increase amount).

By far the best way to keep your Kratom experience fresh and effective you will need to order different Strains/Colors to get a variety of Alkaloids. Every Kratom leaf has it's own unique Alkaloid Makeup. So, I order from a few different vendors and I order a wide variety of colors/strains focusing mostley on Reds,Yellows, Golds, Greens, Beutangies. I only order white occaisonally.

You will find by having variety you can rotate your Strains/Colors in such a way to keep your Kratom experience Fresh and effective. When I order I usually order 30-128 grams per Strain/Color and keep my orders between $25-$50. I have Kratom coming from different vendors throughout the month and if I find a really good strain I will reorder and always try new strains as often as occassion will permit.

My morning is Green 50% Red 40% white 10% (or something like that) then while I am at work I have some white,green,red Kratom capsules I can take half way through work day. When I come home I head for the Kratom and go RED 20% ,RED 20%, Yellow 30%, Gold or Beatangies 30%.( or something like that)

If you rotate your Kratom you will achieve better relief and find you have a lot of options to fill your needs.

Good Luck...
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Can someone see what I'm missing 5 months 1 week ago #34785

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Are you saying you get confused if you take too much...standing at the fridge forgetting WHY you are there?

This does not sound like an effect of Kratom, so I am wondering if you are taking anything else...medication, alcohol, cannabis?

You do not have to share that here on this forum if you are not comfortable doing that, but this is a pretty judgement free place and we just want to help you.

It would help us if we had that info and some of the other info that Nan70 has requested as well.

I am glad you are finding some good effects from Kratom use and I am certain we can help you get this figured out so you can find your glasses!

Long term use of Kratom is possible and I think you would have better therapeutic by taking smaller doses more often BUT regulalry. This would keep the alkaloids at an even level in your blood so that you can get better pain control AND avoid some of the side effects that come from too much.

BUT first lets just get some of these questions answered.
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Can someone see what I'm missing 5 months 1 week ago #34786

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I think you misunderstood the “standing in front of the fridge” portion of her comment. I read it that kratom is HELPING her have fewer moments like that. Mostly because it helps me have fewer “dingy” moments.

I’m sure she’ll be back to clarify, but that’s how I read that portion and thought I’d share it with you NOW..
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Can someone see what I'm missing 5 months 1 week ago #34788

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Laurie wrote: I think you misunderstood the “standing in front of the fridge” portion of her comment. I read it that kratom is HELPING her have fewer moments like that. Mostly because it helps me have fewer “dingy” moments.

I’m sure she’ll be back to clarify, but that’s how I read that portion and thought I’d share it with you NOW..


Could be?... I have been known to get confused myself...BUT it is not because of my Kratom use!

Lets wait for clarification. Time for dinner anyway!
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Can someone see what I'm missing 5 months 1 week ago #34789

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She was NOT BLAMING KRATOM for that part but saying it helped her stop being so forgetful!


That’s what I read.
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Can someone see what I'm missing 5 months 1 week ago #34797

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Thanks for ur replies. So much good info. I have a scale but can't get it set for mgs. My grandson will be here this wknd and will take care of it. I start with an eight tsp and add minute amounts till it shows 1.
Kratom has worked wonders for my memory.I was not able to be left alone at home. Forget I was cooking fire alarm was almost a guarantee. No sense of smell. Not safe. I moved in with my daughter. She is always telling me about the improvements she see since kratom. I get good effects. I was losing that well being feeling but it got very noticeable again with the gold.
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Can someone see what I'm missing 5 months 1 week ago #34798

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hello and welcome to this wonderful forum.....i found that i could not take the powder, i buy capsules of the red vein, they are 1/2 gram per each capsule....(i take 4 grams per dose) perhaps that would be the way for you to go......where i go is great, it is here in oregon...they deliver within 2 days......it is called *UNAPPROVED VENDOR *you can also call them (you will actually get a live person!) they are great....here is their phone no. in oregon also...*********.....this is a great place for help and everyone on here is just wonderful...god bless you dear...catspaw1955
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